Faulty nocking

This is another favorite detailed acting moment from Robin Hood, 2.9 (“Lardner’s Ring”).

In the attempt to neutralize the threat to their situation caused by the appearance of a carrier pigeon, the Sheriff and co. have Robin and Marian treed like coons and are going to burn them out. In order to escape, Robin dangles Marian at rope’s end and threatens to kill her if he’s taken. Sir Guy is full of horror. The moment I love is at 0:09; Robin is shooting at Guy and an arrow lands at his feet; Guy then loses control of the arrow he’s placing into his bow. I wasn’t and am not sure that this loss of control was intentional — it may just be an editing choice — but it makes it look like Guy’s so unmanned by his fears over Marian that he can’t concentrate on his shooting. This impression is augmented by the immediately subsequent cut, which closes in on Guy to show the emotion on his face. This is a really powerful scene altogether for Armitage — one of these days I’ll cut and then analyze the whole sequence — and he gets some amazing facial expressions in, which we see only at the near subliminal level because he’s moving too quickly. To wit (my caps):

Preparing to fire the tree trunk

“Marian! No!”

Seizing his determination, Sir Guy (Richard Armitage) advances toward the tree

Determined and desperate, all at the same time.

The fumble

His arrow under control, having just swallowed deeply, Guy (Richard Armitage) focuses on Robin, again, but the fear in his face is evident and his features are almost fluid. Expand the pictures below and look at the openness of his eyes in each case.Oh, Guy. At this point Robin calls down from the tree that Gisborne must still love her, and that he’s discovered Gisborne’s weakness.

What a lovely weakness, Guy. That you do not fear to rush in here — your skills being what they are, you’ll still use them as best you can. That you can still love in this way after everything that’s happened to this point says amazing things about your capacity for loyalty and love. Which is part of why we love you so much in this scene — even as or because we see you are being deceived. You hope against hope for Marian, and we hope against hope for you.

[School starts tomorrow. Going home now to get some rest and put on my game face.]

~ by Servetus on January 18, 2011.

114 Responses to “Faulty nocking”

  1. Oh, my darling, darling Sir Guy. You know how very much I love you. Yes, you still had the capacity to love and to care and to hope in spite of being kicked in the face metaphorically (and slugged in the jaw literally). Your Creator breathed life and a soul into what could have been another one-dimensional cardboard cutout evil henchman. He gave us a dark angel of a hero–flawed and damaged, oh yes–but a hero, nevertheless.

    Richard’s expressiveness in this scene is a marvel to watch. And once again, I am left wondering about Marian’s sanity as I think of what follows, gorgeous Guy coming to her rescue, taking her in those strong arms . . . she had far more willpower than I would have.

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    • Well, he did burn down her house. That would mitigate feelings of attractiveness in my case. And then he hit on her immediately after her father died. Also uncool.

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      • If she had married him at the end of season 1 like any girl of sense would have, her father’s house would still have been standing, her father would still be living, and he might have had a grandbaby to cuddle even. Marian was such a dingbat. I also disagree that she loved Robin like Guy loved her. She only loved herself. Over and over, her motivations are only ever about her and her desire to play the hero. Robin is similar; the two of them were pretty self-absorbed. Perfect couple.

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        • I’ve been re-watching RH and I agree things would have been much easier if she had married him at the end of S1 but in S2, I think after being rejected and realize that he still wanted her, that he loved her, kind of made it necessary for him to show changes.
          With Marian living in the castle, she could get to know Guy, see those little but meaningful changes in him and they did in S2, IMO, develop a friendlish relationship.
          I think they had to go through that, with S2 being the perfect setting for both of them, if only scriptwriters would’ve forgot about ‘ld silly canon.

          OML ๐Ÿ™‚

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          • Agreed, the stupid ol canon–which they hadn’t bothered to adhere to that closely anyway, should have been kicked to the curb and they should have had the guts to really kick things up a notch and let Marian marry Guy–and if they had to kill off Marian, it should have been Vasey to do it, NOT Guy. *sigh*

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            • Well, was killing off Marian part of the canon? Doesn’t seem like that would make sense…And if so, was she killed off by Gisborne in the canon?

              It just seems expedient that marina died so they could film the bromance. Putting Marina and Guy together would have been so much more interesting…

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              • Exactly, Marian’s death was NOT part of the canon. Which is what p**sed so many people who were Team Leather and Team Hoodie. Hoodites wanted to see Robin and Marian have their happily ever after, and the Leatherettes longed for Guy and Marian to unite.

                But Marian and Guy’s tempestuous relationship being cemented by marriage would have been a great twist and yes, much more interesting . . . but something tells me a certain someone whom I will not name, wanted to get rid of Lucy. I don’t believe she left of her own volition. She was planning on three years with that show, too. And that is ALL I will say on here.

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        • grerp!!!!! where did your blog go?

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          • I’ve also been wondering that…

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          • Blog-city is going out of business and would not renew any subscriptions. I also picked up a few people with a rather intense personal interest in my life, and so I let the whole thing lapse out of desire for privacy rather than rebuild it elsewhere.

            My interest in RA tends to wax and wane depending on what is being released, etc. It waned into late summer and fall, but I still follow the conversations, just not so avidly.

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            • You can see that many people are interested in what you thought!

              This is awful, but you didn’t save that post where explained why you thought Guy had to kill Marian?

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              • The one with all the pictures? Yes, I saved all my posts in word files, but I haven’t reposted anywhere. Maybe I’ll throw up another blog when I have more thoughts to share.

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                • I’m VERY sorry i missed that!! Don’t think too hard about it, pretty please, old thoughts can be new for some *_*

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                • I was thinking about that question a lot and I only had one chance to read your post. When I had the opportunity to go back to it, it was gone ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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  2. Ah, but SHE punched his lights out at the altar, scarring him with the very ring he had just put on her hand, and ran off with his accursed enemy, Hoodie. That could make a man of mercurial temperament a wee bit testy, don’t you think? And the poor orphaned fellow, under the thumb of the odious Vasey, really needed someone to teach him the social graces, which Marian could have done if she’d married him.

    Not that I am an incorrigible Guy apologist or anything. *ahem*

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    • And, I think that as the result of that altar scene that they were indeed well and truly married. Guy’s persistence is one of the things I do admire about him. Guy loved Marian the way Marian loved Robin, ready to sacrifice himself (remember the Nightwatchman).

      I have to rewatch season 3 again as something has occurred to me…

      Regarding the fumbling of the arrow, I never understood why they put Guy in those awkward looking boots and ill-fitting gloves. The fingers in those gloves were big and bulky and not form-fitting on those deliciously slender fingers. Now THAT is something to think bout on this very icy morning.
      Have a lovely day servetus, angie and everyone…make the most of it…blessings….

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      • Maybe the awkward accessories because they wanted to make him look ham-fisted and clumsy as the “bad guy”? Oh, but when he would slink through those castle corridors . . . yummmmmmmm.

        Guy, bless him, was persistent. “I wlll keep giving . . .” *sigh*

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        • Yummm indeed ๐Ÿ™‚

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        • or look as if he cared more about his appearance than about his proficiency as a knight?

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          • Well, he certainly looked sleek and very fetching most of the time–even if he couldn’t seem to do any injury with his big shiny sword in terms of the outlaws. Until Marian, that is . . . *sigh*

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            • @angie, I know from personal experience that he is very good with his *sword* ๐Ÿ˜‰

              Just wanted to lighten your pain love…and make you smile..

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              • @Ann Marie,

                Thanks, sweetheart. I actually found myself crying involuntarily in the wee hours, I was just so wanting to relax and to sleep but not getting there. I have a long day tomorrow–probably close to 12 hours–so I need some smiley material!!

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  3. Brilliant post and I agree, very powerful scene!

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  4. OK, at last you’ve convinced me – I must watch RH again! ๐Ÿ™‚

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  5. One of the endearing aspects of Guy is his loyalty, never mind that it is driven by intense need for acceptance – it is as strong as the need for power, of the youth powerless to prevent his father’s fate, or prevail against the treachery of the young Robin.

    The RH series has much more going for it in nuances than it has has sheer silly, funny anachronism. (Mediaeval Las Vegas casino?) ๐Ÿ˜€

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    • Guy needs to love and be loved, to trust and be trusted, to show and to be shown loyalty. He needs so desperately to BELONG. I am glad they ultimately let him have his heroic death as a redeemed man. It would have broken my heart even more if he had died a “baddie.” As it is, will anyone in an inevitable future remake of this tale be able to step into those spurs and make the same indelible impression as RA? I think not.

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    • I just rewatched the medieval casino yesterday ๐Ÿ™‚ It brought a smile to my face, and squees the many times Guy rolled his eyes ๐Ÿ™‚

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      • Oh, he was so disgusted with Frederich and all the ardent attention he was paying to Marian . . . the utter disdain Guy showed. Just a bit of jealousy there, too, I suspect. All the emotions RA can telegraph with an eyebrow raise, a smirk, or a roll of the eyes. What a wonderful actor!

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      • yeah, those eyes! ๐Ÿ™‚

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    • fitzg, I think that’s right, and it’s really impressive that Armitage can show us all of this about Guy even before his backstory gets revealed.

      I was prepared to hate Robin Hood when I started watching it, but was disarmed very quickly.

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  6. Oh Guy!

    I always wondered about scenes like this in RH when Robin and especially Marian used Guy’s love and obsessive need for Marian’s love against him. I wondered being a show geared towards young people(or so they said) what it was teaching them here – to use people’s genuine feelings to manipulate them? But maybe just me.

    Granted, gorgeous Guy, by his own admission, was responsible for doing some terrible things, mostly ordered by the Sheriff, but his love for Marian was true and his hope for redemption. I was not always sympathetic towards Marian because of how she manipulated Guy. I think by doing that the writers made Guy less of a villain. Of course RA gave Guy such depth and vulnerability in addition to his physical beauty that it was hard to resist him!

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    • Musa,

      Sometimes I found myself really irritated with Marian for her manipulations of Guy, who would have gone to the ends of the earth for her. I don’t think it was a very good lesson to teach the little ones, either, frankly–using other people and breaking their hearts to achieve your own ends, no matter how noble they supposedly are.

      And, of course, we now know Good King Richard wasn’t exactly all that great of a king, anyway. Guy had done wrong–oh, if he hadn’t come under the malignant spell of Vasey!–but there was good in him. Meg saw that, bless her sweet heart.

      Yes, Guy won our sympathy through his vulnerability and his deep love for Marian and desire for a home and a family and the sorts of things most all of us want. He had no one. That still breaks my heart.

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    • Nicely noted, Musa. There were several points in that show that bugged me in terms of its target audience — as a US American not so much the violence, but for example Guy telling Robin that he’d think of him when he took Marian to the marriage bed. ??

      I think that Lucy Griffiths’ performance also deepened our perception of Guy as multifaceted. She could have made her manipulations seems much more transparent than she did. But as it was performed she truly made it seem like she was occasionally moved by Guy, truly puzzled a bit by her own reactions.

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      • Again, I think that Lucy and RA worked together to make their scenes as good as possible. I think she’s a talented young lady who also learned a lot from having RA as a screen partner.
        I think of her reaction when she went to the manor and found him half-naked, trying on armor in the firelight. She looked startled, suddenly shy and at a loss for words, and also quite intrigued by what she saw (who wouldn’t be??)

        In terms of the violence, it often seemed a bit cartoon-like in that hardly anyone ever bled—Guy had a sword driven through him and a knife in his back and (thank goodness!) I saw not a drop of blood shed. I figured that was a concession to its being “family-friendly.”

        But–yeah, there was a significant amount of sexual innuendo going on–think also of the way Vasey would paw Guy in a distinctly unsettling manner, or PJ suggesting some fun in the dungeon with the female jailed there, the homoeroticism of PJ and Guy in the tent scene . . . just who WERE they targeting?

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      • @Musa @servetus

        Reading your posts here I also realized that Robin used and manipulated Marian too. There were times when she balked at manipulating or using Guy and robin would lay a guilt trip on her or emotionally bully her into cooperating. I don;t know how much Robin really loved her and why didn’t Marian really question it more?

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        • Ann Marie,

          I was thinking exactly the same thing. Robin was very manipulative of the gang members and of Marian. Ultimately, it seems to me it was all about Robin for Robin. Being the hero, being the last great hope of England (oh, gawd, I can hear Tuck blathering on in my ear . . .) Yes, even Marian actually tried to stand up for Guy from time to time and Robin would quickly dismiss her efforts.

          I think Robin loved Robin and clinging to his misguided notions about GKR far more than he loved or cherished anyone else, including Marian (good grief, he compared her to a BOW). Maybe she would have been better off at the nunnery . . . maybe she would never have been able to “settle down” with either man. But as to the question of who truly loved her, I still say it was Guy, imperfect and obsessive as that love may have been.

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          • I think that Guy would have allowed her more freedom to be herself than Robin would have. Robin was quite chauvinistic re Marian when he wasn’t using her. I think her strong will, vexing though it was to Guy at times, was one of the things that made her stand out for him. She wasn’t simpering, timid or dull.

            As always angie, I agree with you!

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            • Aw, thanks, Ann Marie. Yeah, Robin was just so dismissive of Marian when he wasn’t trying to cajole her or guilt her into doing his “dirty work.”

              “Oh, I am back now, Marian, the people’s great hero, so put aside your little forays as the NWM and do as I say as my little woman.” That’s the feeling I got from Robin (smug git!).

              Frankly, I think Guy would have ultimately been bored to tears with a very docile female, even if initially attracted to her physically. I think he saw Marian initially as a bit of a trophy, a chance to take something away from Hood, but came to appreciate her spirit, even if at times she infuriated him (“Woman!!).

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              • Though Guy also would have issues with her if she had refused to live up to his dream of what she should be, I fear …

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                • You know hopeful romantic me, Servetus, I like to think they could have had a happy ending–even if there had a few “knock down drag outs” along the way.
                  A girl can dream . . .

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  7. You try to convince me to become a Guy convert after my Lucas adoration, Servetus? With more of those posts you really might succeed ;o)
    All the best for your start into the new semester, lots of joy and only wonderfully interested students!

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    • Thanks for the good wishes!

      I’ll be writing more about Guy during the upcoming “drought,” I feel sure. Part of the issue for me is that I find some of the Robin episodes physically painful to watch.

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  8. I love how he is terrified for Marian or is it that he’s (also)terrified by his feelings(love) for her? It just ocurred to me that he might be thinking he has to get Hood or face Vasey (not that he hasn’t bear with his rants before..) but his instinct is to save her. And Richard Armitage expresses all of that with a look.
    I also love his expression when he gets on the tree with her, it’s not relief, I mean he must be relieved but there’s another feeling in his face…

    I love when you talk about Guy, Servetus. *big grin*
    OML ๐Ÿ™‚

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    • Will try to do it more, then. ๐Ÿ™‚

      There’s also the issue that if he doesn’t get to Marian before Vasey does, Vasey has promised to kill her. But I think this is perceptive, OML, that he’s afraid of his own feelings.

      Funny that he utters the same line when he rescues her that Thornton says to Margaret at the train station: you’re coming home with me.

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      • I assumed that was the scriptwriters with another of their little in jokes. Like naming the servant Thornton, and then Izzie’s husband was also Thornton, wasn’t he?

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  9. Marian used Guy outrageously – she and Bobbin deserved each other. However I agree that the show could have been far more interesting if they had married her to Guy at the end of S1 or S2. I’m sure it must have been seriously considered at the end of S2, in particular.

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    • I’ve always said–and I do believe Richard said–Marian and Guy should have married.

      Put Marian in a spot where she has to deal with conflicting loyalties to Robin and GKR and her growing realization that her new husband is not the monster she once thought him, that she really did cruelly manipulate him–let her fall in love with him. Angst and passion and tenderness and regret (I would have preferred an adult version of this BTW LOL)

      If she still had to be killed off, let Vasey do it and set Guy and Robin at loggerheads because each blames the other for her death. Then you could have had them coming together to unite against Vasey . . . anyway, it’s all water under the bridge now.

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      • “Put Marian in a spot where she has to deal with conflicting loyalties to Robin and GKR and her growing realization that her new husband is not the monster she once thought him, that she really did cruelly manipulate himโ€“let her fall in love with him.”
        I see a plot for a fic (without all the killing after, unless is Vasey getting killed) *whistles innocently*

        OML ๐Ÿ™‚

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        • You people are trying to keep me busy, aren’t you? *grin* I am still trying to finish Truce (really, really close!) . . . with two major publication content deadlines looming at the end of this month in RL. Something tells me we won’t be able to meet them all on top of everything else.

          Guy is bugging me like crazy to write something else featuring him–still a bit jealous of Sgt. Porter.

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          • *whispers and winks* Guy I’m with you, you deserve another fic.

            Oh RL always spoiling the fun! Well, we (me and Guy of course) don’t want to stress you out Angie, whenever you can write him a fic -in the near future- will be ok.

            OML
            (in silly mood, it happens when it’s already past midnight)

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        • Some of this is explored in LadyKate63’s Lady of Nottingham, one of the best fics out there. Not that Angie shouldn’t write a different one!

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  10. @ Angie — they should hire you to fix RH and that last season of Spooks.

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  11. I have to say that I still mourn Guy’s death even though he was redeemed and as he said in his last breath, he was “free” *Sob*!! However, what really sticks with me is what Richard Armitage said in an interviews on one of the Robin Hood DVD Extras. He said he’d had a problem sleeping for two or three nights before they were to film the scene where he “kills” Marion. That totally blew me away and really endeared him to me as I’m sure that in his mind, because of how he inhabits each person he plays,he “was” Guy and he was really going to do this awful thing. He also said he felt that Guy and Marion still had a lot of things they hadn’t yet said to eachother. I believe he said that he and Lucy had quite a number of conversations about it before they shot it. It sounded to me as though he had a real problem with that whole story line there and that he had disagreed with the writers when told what they planned to do with her character. He also maintained that he didn’t actually mean to kill her which I feel he HAD to think in order to rationalize it to himself.

    From an old interview with Lucy which was posted yesterday on richardarmitagenet.com (If you haven’t read it yet check out the entry for Jan 17th)it seems she really loved working with him which no doubt made the scene that much harder to play. That all sounds very long-winded on my part but I hope you understand what I am trying to say. The above video clip and pictures seem to convey so well the depth of his feelings for Marion.

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    • @Teuchter,

      I think Richard became very fond of and protective of Sir Guy and yes, I think he absolutely was upset when he found out what they had written.
      I think it was a very tough scene for both of them to play because they had developed a friendship and mutual respect and I salute them for their hard work in getting in right. And believe you me, I NEVER wanted Guy to die. As far as I am concerned, of course, he is So Not Dead and hanging out at my house eating my Cheez-its and parrying with his new sword I gave him for Christmas. At least they didn’t do to Guy what they did to Lucas . . . grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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    • Thanks for the heads up on the interview, I haven’t read it before. It’s amusing how she says 3 things about JA and the a whole paragraph about RA. They really got on well.

      I read/heard an interview where RA said he was surprised (maybe a bit angry) at the twist of Guy killing Marian, that he actually went to the scriptwriters to tell them and then he didn’t deny it but just didn’t mentioned it anymore.

      OML ๐Ÿ™‚

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      • I read that interview too, yesterday, and I started thinking that the chemistry that Lucy and RA had probably shone through in the show. The way she briefly mentioned JA, but then talks about how she really liked working with RA may help to partly explain why for me it ”felt” that there was so much more chemistry between Marian and Guy than there was between Marian and Robin. To me it always seemed that Marian and Robin related more like siblings, but that there really was an attraction between Marian and Guy.

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        • Elisabet,

          I agree, Marian and Robin’s chemistry seemed much more like a brother and sister relationship–bickering at times, affectionate–but not the intensity, the romantic potential we felt could be there between Guy and Marian, if that relationship had been allowed to develop.

          What’s odd is that Lucy and Jonas apparently were a couple, at least briefly, but I could never envision them together in RL, frankly. Whereas I could easily see her crushing on RA.

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          • Really, I did not know that. I can’t ”see” that they would have been an item either. Was that before or after RH? Because if it was before that could also have shone through (i.e. the lack of chemistry, at least for me).

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            • Apparently during the making of the show. Don ‘t think it lasted long. She ended up dating Joe Kennedy, who played Carter on RH. And Jonas apparently dated lots of ladies.

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          • Wow. Maybe they are really different people in real life.

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    • Teuchter, thanks for all this info. That interview is really interesting and very moving in terms of what it says about our guy!

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  12. Oh dear, you may all hate me after stating the obvious. If not for that erotic death, we’d never have ubersexy S3 longhaired tormented Guy with his silk disheveled shirt!
    I love that scene Servetus. I do think he stumbled there, but I also love Lucy’s part because there is a point where one could doubt if her crying is still fake or if she’s cracking under this love triangle, or rather breaking under Guy’s sex-appeal.
    We just viewed “Show me the Money” the other day, my gang asked to watch RH again and particularly that episode where Marian’s dad died. But we’re due to start from the beginning again …

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    • good point about S3 — definitely made Guy more tortured!

      I agree — at the end of that scene it doesn’t seem like she’s feigning her tears at all.

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  13. Awww, I really liked Marian! Yes, she manipulated Guy. What else could a mediaeval maiden do? Trapped between her father’s plight, Vasey and her boy-girl affection for the supposedly “good” Robin? And agree that Marian’s death, inadvertantly at the hands of Gisborne, laid the groundwork for a thoroughly dramatic and moving S3.Hated the S2 finale, but we would not otherwise have A Dangerous Deal, or Bad Blood, or the lovely comedy of the tavern scene in The Enemy of My Enemy.

    Also had the strong sense of rapport between Lucy Griffiths and Mr. Armitage, and the sense of the older actor’s guidence and recognition of the young one’s intuitive acting. Big brother and probably slightly hero-worshipping younger sister…(actually, if she was anything like me at 19/20, she would have had a small crush on the Older Man ๐Ÿ™‚ )

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    • Oh, Fitzg, don’t get me wrong, I thought Lucy was a great Marian, and I thought Richard went on to reach operatic heights with his performance as super-angsty, uber-sexy S3 Guy (hottah than evah, honey) and yes, funny , too!!— but I still have to confess the manipulations began to bug me after a while. I am an incredible old softy in some ways.
      I am sure she had a nice little crush on the Gorgeous, Talented and Kind Older Man. Who wouldn’t??

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    • he’s like 15 years older than she. So I’m glad it was brotherly and not otherwise ๐Ÿ™‚

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      • I just can’t see RA taking advantage of a young co-star (plenty of celebs out there who would have no qualms, of course). It seems like Lucy and RA had a really great camaraderie and working relationship and I know she hated to lose that when she left.

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      • @servetus,

        I don’t know, give me a gorgeous man who’s 15 years older and I think I could manage. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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        • I do have to admit I have been salivating over that new Louis Vuitton ad with Sir Sean–who is old enough to be my father. But I am definitely not thinking of him as a daddy figure. Nope . . . He may be in his 80s, but he’s still got “it.”

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        • I think the issues are different at different life stages. She had done no tv work at all at this point, it was her first job, and she was (I believe) 21 or 22 at the time. I guess what I’m referring to is not taking advantage of the naive, because 40 year olds can also be naive. But one assumes that a 40 year old woman encountering a 55 year old man would be having a slightly different interaction …

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          • Yeah, age difference means a lot more at certain stages of life than others. We would have serious issues with a 15-year-old kid involved with a 30-something; surely manipulation could be involved?

            If a 35-year-old is involved with a 50-year-old, it’s hardly the same thing–assuming that younger partner does have a reasonable degree of maturity.

            My brother-in-law is actually 26 years my sister’s senior, but she was a mature adult when they met, not a teenager or young 20-something, so she went into with her big blue eyes wide open.

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  14. You chose a wonderful scene to discuss Servetur. It is one of my fav scenes in RH. I love Guy’s protectiveness of Marian. He doen’t know she’s not in danger. And I dislike Marian for being so callous and playing so with Guy and his feelings. Playing with fire indeed!

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    • This scene just reinforces my belief in the the genuineness of Guy’s feelings for Marian. Yes, his love may have been obsessive and possessive, but she truly was, as he said when dying, “the love of my life.” It still makes me angry the scriptwriters didn’t have someone come to Guy as they had Marian come to Robin as he was dying—Meg, or his mother. Someone. *sigh*

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    • Sorry Servetus, I need to proof read better…

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    • Elisabet: yes: you see a sort of bare honesty in his eyes that is so often hidden in the character.

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      • Guy generally hides his deeper emotions, but there are those moments when the fear, the anxiety, the angst come rushing to the surface, and it’s often in connection with Marian. She is his weak spot in many ways.

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  15. Angie, I would have loved nothing more than for Marian to acknowledge her feeling for Guy. BUT, I just don’t feel that Guy was at a stage of his his life at which he could have accepted Marian for who she was. Robin didn’t really, either. And it took her father time to come to terms with his daughter. Guy had a long
    emotional journey still to make…

    If I can work out how to import other emoticons here, would be sending you roses, Angie, Because you express the romantic in us! And I’m with you there! ๐Ÿ™‚

    I think it had to Gisborne to perform the “crime passionale”, because he had to carry that guilt and work through it to become the man he truly wished to be.

    And I think Robin (the scriptors; Robin, not the actor’s; nothing much wrong with young Armstrong’s portrayal) was a nasty little weasel. And a self-serving hypocrite – Marian manipulative??!! Please regard the success Robin had in keeping Much around as a pet and cowing even John…

    This was not a kiddies’ show….

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    • There just wasn’t much to admire for me in this version of the character of Robin.

      I am not particularly a fan of JA for reasons I won’t go into here, and yes, the way the character was written–a smug, self-serving, glory hog of a git who took it for granted everyone would see things his way, and yes, bloody manipulative–made me even less likely I was ever going to cheer on the “hero” and the romance between Robin and Marian.

      I’ll be honest, I don’t think Robin and Marian would have ever been really happy together either as man and wife. So what it appears to boil down to is this: the triangle was always doomed to end tragically. No happily ever after for any of them.

      Wow, that’s a really cheerful thought. NOT. So I’ll continue to indulge in my happy little romantic fantasies and wish for what could have been.

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      • I think I sound slightly bitter here, sorry, really bad, sleepless night and in a lot of pain today. Must see to tooth that is giving me as much trouble as if Vasey himself was pounding on my head.

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        • I hope you feel better soon!

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        • Sorry to hear that. Hope it gets better.

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        • ๐Ÿ˜ฆ feel better!

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          • I didn’t work much today–well, I actually wrote all my stuff for BCN around 3 a.m. and emailed it and finally fell asleep after 7, so I had quite a headache earlier. I was in the office for a while this afternoon when the face started throbbing again. But I will see the dentist in the morning and hopefully he can do something with this big ol’ hle in my tooth to give me more relief than the Lord-tab is providing. I just hate the thought of the expense of another crown . . . on a lighter note, Benny opened his eyes very wide and earnestly and said, “Well, you are MY queen . . .” LOL

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    • It was a bit like Sesame Street IMO: the subject matter is directed at kids, but it’s addressed in a way that’s capable of interesting adults, so that everyone can watch it.

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  16. Oh Servetus, I love this scene, so much emotion on the face of Mr. Armitage, fear (what happens to Marian) surprised (that Marian may have to be hurt by Robin) and his concern for the pursuit of her release. I think it heightens the emotions real fear, because they have to deal with arrows, and it is a weapon, and probably are some artificial arrows (less dangerous), but even they may do harm, so the concentration must be large (it must have been hard work )
    I love Guy by Richard Armitage, perhaps because it is not one-dimensional, I mean that one can not say about him being a evil man, he just makes mistakes, and perhaps set its priorities wrong, he wanted sometimes have power at any cost. But he really loved Marian, has changed himself for her and his dedication is proved many times that he loves her, that my heart is bursting, when Marian did not see it.
    I was asking myself, since this edition of Robin Hood was intended for children and young people what they can learn? And I think that one such response is: Do not play with the feelings of others (as did Marian)
    @ Teuchter
    Thank you for drawing my attention to the interview with Lucy, actually shows that she had to be some chemistry between them. Lucy’s so beautifully spoke about their of cooperation to prove how much RA is involved in his work, how to acting puts his heart

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    • It’s a really complex scene in both of camera work and editing, not to mention all the acting. Eventually I’ll probably look at the entire scene of the treeing, not just this little piece.

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  17. Please see to that tooth and please feel better!

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  18. I do think that Lucy G was punching way above her weight (age), as a very untried actress, and portrayed, through sheer intuition and I think, much intuitive rapport with Mr. Armitage, a Marian for the ages.

    Don’t think that marriage to Robin would have worked well; he was such a control freak. Some sympathy for Jonas; his performance was script-good, according to the way the scriptors and director directed. Also don’t THINK that Gisborne, at this stage of his development would have made a good husband, either. (goes against my romantic tendencies, but). Gisborne had a little way to go to “wash away his sins”. And had something of an epiphany with his relationship with Meg.

    Gooodness, I do wish I could get over Gisborne! Love all Mr. Armitage’s characters, but Gisborne just won’t flipping GO AWAY’ And I do think the series ought not to be under-rated….

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  19. […] the substance of what I was going to say in this post — I’ve noted in other places how his ability to get his eyes that far open enhances the drama of his acting — but while I was looking for this cap, I found myself flipping through the other caps for […]

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  20. […] can also use an arrow, though he fumbles it; here, during his attempt to smoke Robin out of the tree in Robin Hood 2.9. Source: […]

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  21. […] First, the nocking: […]

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