Richard Armitage Legenda 82: Stuff worth reading

Legenda offers a brief, non-inclusive index of stuff about Richard Armitage that I noticed and enjoyed since the last episode. It doesn’t usually include materials presented on the major fansites, which I love dearly, but which are linked in the sidebar. Because I always forget or just miss stuff, please add additional pieces of interest via link in the comments.]

Richard Armitage archive

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Richard Armitage-related fanfic

Richard Armitage-related fanfic: RPF, sexy, slash, mature

  • At A03: “Caesura” by fayzalmoonbeam: The author’s take on the conversations Armitage had with Lucy Griffiths before Guy of Gisborne murdered Marian.
  • At A03: “Promises” by Jon (TH / Thorin / Dwalin / slash / explicit). A sweet story. Jon was one of the first authors to publish TH slash at A03. I still remember his “A Warm Welcome” (TH / Thorin / Gloin / slash / explicit) with a great deal of pleasure and I see he’s got a lot of new stuff up.
  • “The Saga of Vaenomar” goes to ch. 28. (TH / Thorin / prehistory of the Erebor exiles).
  • At A03: “Another Tomorrow” by keelywolfe. Read warnings.
  • At A03: “Oak and Ash and Thorin” by Drakkhammer. Thorin meets a tree spirit.

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Armitageworld blogs OT

  • Two responses to the “Forbidden?” prompt (“talk about a thing you’ll never write about”) by Gigglepants and MorrighansMuse.

OT, collateral attractions, and stuff I think about

~ by Servetus on June 8, 2013.

24 Responses to “Richard Armitage Legenda 82: Stuff worth reading”

  1. Thanks for the link, Servetus! And all the other great stuff! 😀

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  2. AwkwardCeleb had two funny takes on what Richard is reaching for in that Ascroft pic: https://twitter.com/AwkwardCeleb/status/334377051689742336

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  3. The Cumberbitch essay should be required reading in all fandoms. Especially the bit about projection, an issue you and I have discussed at length.

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    • There’s a lot in that essay I appreciated, but in particular:

      “But I don’t think it works to believe that if only everyone else in the fandom would follow suit and abandon the term “Cumberbitches,” then his life would be less crazy. I don’t think it works like that.”

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      • What I credit most about the essay is the non-judgmental point of view which takes into account varying opinions on the use of the term Cumberbitch and the star’s present and possible future reaction to it. I’m against fans policing each other ( except in so far as bloggers and board administrators want to keep things friendly), And there is a part of me that thinks- the idea of fandom is to lift up the object of our admiration and wish all the best things for him and participate in a community of like-minded people -so if it makes him uncomfortable- it should stop- but that’s a slippery slope- next certain fanfiction will come on the block, then legitimate critical analysis of his work, censoring bad interviews, and so forth and so on. Thus I agree, we can’t protect them-we shouldn’t.
        Looking at it from the fan’s point of view, If I were a member of his fandom, I would not want to be referred to as a Cumberbitch yet I know of no means by which I could distance myself from it. If I were an active fan, and if BC were reminded in every interview, ” Now you have a large following of female fans – and what do they call themselves-Oh yes, the Cumberbitches – who are they? what is it like do they send you gifts (pants?)….” By inference, no matter how anonymous, against my will,I am lumped into that collective noun, and I,too,would wince. Not just because of the suffix ” bitch,” which may or may not have some clever legitimacy in that context, ( I think not- I think it’s not OK to use insulting epithets just because the speaker is a member of the class-( at least no one chose “Cumberc-nts”)- but because I don’t want or need that sort of identity, yet I see no way out of it.Servetus and others- I apologize for the length of this and appreciate the opportunity- as usual, I’m, still having difficulty negotiating the sites and couldn’t figure out how to comment directly to three patch.
        Perry322 -Not a Cumberbitch;not a soldier.

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        • Richard Armitage is entitled to his opinions about his fans, just like we’re entitled to our opinions about him — but neither is decisive for the other. Mostly because there’s no actual mechanism of coercion in either direction. The issue that this most reflected for me was the discussion over how to refer to homosexuals from inside the community, and the debates over that — people embracing queer, gay, etc., or rejecting same. I think the point for me is context for speaker and audience, because the debates over that question elsewhere involve different language (e.g., in Germany you don’t call a woman “gay” (schwül), but always lesbian (lesbisch), whereas in the U.S. some women still say “I’m gay.”)

          “Bitch” is an interesting example of a word that’s making a transition right now. Many of my students say “bitch” to mean “complain about something intensively and extensively.” They don’t think about the gender connotations. I sometimes wonder if it’s a word that’s on its way to a usage like “to jew” (for bargaining) or “to gyp” (for cheating), in which people use the term these days entirely unaware of its original connections. I limit my critique of “bitch” to saying, “You should think five times before using that word in a formal or professional setting” and let them think about why. The point for me is that I want to point about to them that we have a social consensus about appropriate words and that in professional settings we usually don’t want to provoke our interlocutors via accidental use of problematic language. In the meantime I’ve also included a deduction on my grading sheet for use of racial slurs or other language that could be interpreted as hate speech in submitted essays.

          re: Army — Armitage’s statement about that term when asked was something along the lines of “it makes me feel good to know that if i ever have to go to war, there’ll be any army of women behind me,” so he legitimated it on that level (although he’s also stated he’s a pacifist. And he didn’t have the high octane education that Cumberbatch had before drama school, so has probably been exposed to debates like this primarily in practical settings as opposed to in conceptual / philosophical discussion). At a point about four years later he stated in response to a question about fans that he’d realized he’d better let us get on with it, which I think was wise. Eventually most actors realize that they simply don’t have to answer these questions when they come up.

          I don’t care for “Army,” not just b/c I don’t like the common sense connotations of the word, but because the story I know about the original source of the term in the context of the Armitage fandom doesn’t really resonate with or having meaning to me. So I don’t ever use that word here except to refer to the forum with that name (and I think many of the traditional bloggers are often neutral to negative about it), but that doesn’t stop people from referring to as part of it. But obviously the fans of the first hour loved it and took it on — and the tumblr/twitter/microblog folks have embraced it with gusto. If Armitage ever came out and said, “I don’t like that,” I think it would be nice if fans considered not using it, but I don’t think that request is binding on them.

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        • Also, w/r/t Cumberbatch — I always think it’s worth asking oneself, “what’s the alternative?” What else could he have said? Had he said, “I love it,” that would have been equally or even more problematic, I think.

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  4. Thanks for this.Your “legends” have become a treat to which I look forward.

    Slightly OT- can you explain how the date and time of the posts and ccomments are determined? It is June 8, 8:04 p.m Daylight Savings Time as I write this. in US. Your last comment just prior to mine is dated tomorrow shortly after midnight. Wouldn’t 4 + hours later be somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean?

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    • I’m glad you enjoy the feature. I became a blogger on a WP blog, two blogs previous to this one, while I was living in Germany, and I’ve just never changed the time stamp.

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  5. Thanks for the links, Serv!

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  6. Thanks for the links, Servet!

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  7. Many thanks for the link, Servetus :*

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  8. Love these Armitage World wrap ups! I enjoy reading what other fans think and do via these handy links. And thanks for sharing my post link!

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  9. […] a brief, non-inclusive index of stuff about Richard Armitage that I noticed and enjoyed since the last episode. It doesn’t usually include materials presented on the major fansites, which I love dearly, but […]

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