I’m working most of the day today — but here it is:
~ by Servetus on April 27, 2016.
Posted in Richard Armitage Tags: Chop, richard armitage, Urban and the Shed Crew
thank you for the interview, it was really great. Mr Richard Armitage is such a hauntingly, adorable, sexy, humble human being and a great theater and movie actor, (i just read on perry’s blog) that his movies will not be shown at a certain event or anywhere. it is such a damn shame, here you have a gentleman who puts his heart and soul into these roles and then no movie to be seen by anyone. what the hell! i hope that the Berlin Station will be seen,(they say in the fall it will be shown here in the U.S.) and i am so sorry for thinking and saying this but i have this bad feeling it is not going to be seen.. i have seen the different websites that have shown the filming of this t.v. series, behind the scenes and even photos and the show looks very exciting and i can’t wait to see it(if it gets shown). i find it very strange how a lot of great movies, okay movies and some very shitty movies get distributors( i think that is the correct word) but no distributors for Mr. Richard Armitage’s movies. what the hell! i am so sorry for some of the cuss words i have put in this( and i am not sure but i might have repeated certain things/words, i really don’t know) sorry for that, but i am so angry that these people have a great actor/gentleman and won’t show what he has done.
bloodangel said this on April 27, 2016 at 10:16 pm | Reply
I’m not sure that the fact that Sleepwalker won’t be seen at the LA film festival means it won’t be seen anywhere, but I don’t know enough about the industry to say, really.
One thing that I think we’re seeing now (that’s different from before) is that what Armitage is doing gets a lot more general coverage. We only ever used to hear if something he did actually made a screen, because the entertainment news didn’t cover it before. Since the Hobbit, much of what he does comes to our notice, which means that when a project he works on doesn’t progress we notice it now.
I’m thinking about his association with a film, “Charlie,” that came to nothing, for instance, about six years ago, and I wonder how many more projects like that he’s been involved in over the years.
Servetus said this on April 28, 2016 at 5:02 am | Reply
It is a business and socially relevant movies lose out to the big glitzy films that make big money. As for Berlin Station it is supposed ton on Epic meaning you pay. I have top level of U-verse which includes all premium channels but not Epic. Apparently they see themselves as special so you to see the new series you pay separately.
Peggy Kincaid said this on April 28, 2016 at 12:17 am | Reply
That’s not entirely true if you look at the socially relevant films/actors nominated for Oscars last year: Spotlight, Room, Brooklyn, The Big Short, Carol, Trumbo, Danish Girl, etc. Some of the blame belongs to Mr. A’s choices. He keeps picking films that are more art house films with actors having low name recognition or less than bankable box office appeal, instead of films with more general appeal and big name stars.
He had a great launchpad (3 Hobbit films) from which to spring but only Aidan Turner and Graham MacTavish have parlayed their dwarf appeal into show after show, whether good or bad, which are being released (The Mortal Instruments, Poldark, And Then There Were None, Outlander, The Finest Hours, Creed). With the exception of Hannibal (and even that had a limited audience on which I blame the director),
Mr. A has chosen Into the Storm (not really that good, some actors had name recognition, made 3X it’s cost so it’s a hit but I think that was due to Mr. A’s fans), Urban (a film with slang only understood in England, looking for it on DVD), Sleepwalker (actors with no name recognition except for Osment, hoping it will be released on DVD), Pilgrimage (some actors with some name recognition but good subject matter and the Irish Film Board should ensure its release), and Brain on Fire (Moretz has so far not been a bankable star but this film will probably be released).
I think Berlin Station has great possibilities but putting it on a premium station NOT carried in every market (the big cable company Comcast does not carry EpiX, at least not in Houston and the surrounding area, that’s 8 million+ people).
Let’s hope for DVD releases at least.
snowyjo said this on April 28, 2016 at 3:29 am | Reply
I don’t have the impression that he was turning down better offers (but that’s only based on my feelings about a few things he said).
Servetus said this on April 28, 2016 at 5:04 am | Reply
I agree with Servetus: I don’t think he ‘keeps on choosing’ art house stuff, but that this is all he is being offered. If we look at Aidan Turner and Graham McTavish, it isn’t their minor roles in big movies that have made them famous but TV series which have wide appeal (Poldark and Outlander). The same can be said for Benedict Cumberbatch who worked for years without recognition and then got the part of Sherlock. There is so much luck involved and so few actors get that lucky break.
There is also the matter of the industry’s perception of you: his part of Thorin made directors think he was short and hairy – but also a lead – and, as he said, there is a lot of competition for such parts from the more famous. The only lead role he was offered after The Hobbit appears to have been ITS which is why he took it, I think. I’m not quite sure if he is unwilling to take minor roles like AT and GM but perhaps his agent has advised him that it will look like a step backwards: better a prominent role in an art film than a minor role in a blockbuster. Just a guess here.
And, a final point: Judi Dench was very, very old before she achieved international fame outside of her stage work. As a national treasure, she can afford to have wonky teeth.
jaydee09 said this on April 28, 2016 at 12:28 pm | Reply
My hypothesis about the teeth was that he went to LA after N&S for pilot season and someone there told him he needed to have the teeth jazzed up.
Servetus said this on April 28, 2016 at 8:23 pm | Reply
A lot of people also hypothesize that Into the Storm was his reward for agreeing to do the third Hobbit film.
Servetus said this on April 28, 2016 at 8:19 pm | Reply
Isn’t it a shame that all we get are the big glitzy movies? I am so tired of them. I think back on the last few years and my favorites have been ones like Salmon Fishing on the Yemen and Best Marigold Hotel. I so much prefer the smaller films with actual stories.
RAmused said this on April 28, 2016 at 2:50 am | Reply
Yeah, the industry is really deformed right now — I think because of the distribution issues. No one knows how a production will best reach an audience.
Servetus said this on April 28, 2016 at 5:05 am | Reply
My impression is that he takes roles that interest him or stretch his acting skills in directions that are professionally satisfying to him. Perhaps he has enough financial security at present to enable him to work on projects of that nature. I’m sure he would prefer it if these movies were actually seen by the public, and it would be a shame if they are not, but so much of that is not in his control. That is one of the things I like about him, he doesn’t seem to be striving to be a “celebrity.”
Thanks for sharing this interview, Serv!
Babette said this on April 28, 2016 at 5:33 am | Reply
Yeah, I think it’s more or less part of the price you pay when you do work of this type that you don’t know when it will be released. I think it’s entirely possible that he’s done at least some more of this over the years before N&S and we just didn’t know about it because no one cared to publicize it.
Servetus said this on April 28, 2016 at 8:24 pm | Reply
Did he ever play in a major blockbuster other than The Hobbit? I think he’d like to get the offers similar to colleagues like Eddie R, Tom H., Benedict C., Ralph Fiennes or even Colin Firth, but I’m not sure he has the same appeal to either the wider audience or the directors/producers. Didn’t he joke about “his choices” in one the interviews during the Crucible run? I think that indicated that he simply did not get those high profile offers. I can’t put my finger on it (yet), but I think some of his personal choices, for example, in terms of appearance (e.g. fixing his teeth although they weren’t that bad to begin with and which in their “new” shiny white gleam annoyed the hell out of me in his final Hobbit scene) don’t necessarily help. A lot if not most European actors (the really good and successful ones – think Judi Dench or the ones mentioned above) don’t have Hollywood pearly whites but kept their own teeth. Mind you, I don’t want to compare ones choice of teeth to ones identity, but it does say something about your self-confidence(?), doesn’t it? For me too much artificial enhancement in order to chase a perceived fashionable (Hollywood) ideal can be detrimental to the authenticity of the portrayal of a character (Would Thorin have had such straight white teeth, or his character in Urban and the Shed Crew?), and no matter how much talent you have, it will look somewhat wrong. The focus on looks (very Hollywood-esque looks) doesn’t always help the authenticity of an actor’s performance. Maybe it is the impression of ‘being too eager to please or fit in’ that is off putting. I sometimes get the impression that he acts with the brakes on. I have seen moments where he was at ease with the character and the situation that we delivered a stunning performance (e.g. Proctor) but I’m afraid he more often doesn’t go all the way.
I think he still lacks something that the other, now big, UK-raised international stars have. It’s not charisma per se, not sure what word I’m looking for.
Vanguard said this on April 28, 2016 at 10:44 am | Reply
To be fair to him — if he was going to be in a Hollywood film as a romantic lead, he needed to do something about his teeth. I’m sure they were fine for a normal mortal and probably for the British stage, but for the Hollywood market it’s pretty well an expectation that a romantic lead have perfect teeth. He tried for several years to get jobs on the British stage that he apparently did not get before going into TV but once that was his direction, he needed to make that modification.
Servetus said this on April 28, 2016 at 8:28 pm | Reply
Sorry… *HE delivered a stunning performance(…)
Vanguard said this on April 28, 2016 at 10:47 am | Reply
Servetus, I am sorry I ruined the interview section with my comment, I did see the interview and it was great. I loved listening to him and seeing him talk with such passion/fire about this movie it just reminded me of his interview ( the crucible, and love poems) and he had the same passion/fire. that I got angry, that here is this hauntingly, adorable, sexy man who puts his heart and soul into the movies, audiobooks, etc. and then to have some of his work not be seen. it just rubbed/irked me the wrong way( to some people who don’t understand the rubbed/irked it kinda means upset). again so sorry for ruining this section, it really was a great interview and thank you for showing it.
bloodangel said this on April 28, 2016 at 11:49 am | Reply
You didn’t ruin anything.
I too would be very sad if UATSC didn’t reach an audience, but to speak of RA not achieving “more” and not capitalizing on the Hobbit-success is something I’ll save for another time.
In short, I believe he’s already achieved quite a lot. And if it’s versatility he’s looking for (and the risk of becoming bored he’s trying to escape from), then I believe he’s definitely achieving it.
Mermaid said this on April 28, 2016 at 2:11 pm | Reply
If we consider that 90% of all actors are out of work at any given time, and he doesn’t seem to be starving by any means, I think he’s done pretty well as well.
I think there’s a structural problem in the industry that his comments about playing Proctor two years ago pointed out, which is that if you want to get offers of great roles in indies that will get seen, or in prominent stage roles, and you’re not a talent on the level of Alan Rickman (say), then you need to be doing big box office movies that get you those invitations. That means Hollywood. I don’t have the impression that he ever really wanted the notoriety of someone like Cumberbatch or Hiddleston — but the question is how to get the offers you want, which might take you on paths you’re not so excited about.
Servetus said this on April 28, 2016 at 8:31 pm | Reply
Well, in terms of a career that took off later than that of Hiddleston, Redmayne, Cumberbatch, Fassbender, etc., I would say Armitage’s is well under way.
Many of the great British actors/actresses didn’t reach international acclaim, including Rickman, until they were middle-aged or older, so there’s still time.
I believe it could be to Armitage’s advantage that he’s not a household name (yet), because when Hollywood keeps reusing the same actors, there’s always the risk of over-exposure. I’m sure his time will come. If that’s what he wants.
Mermaid said this on April 29, 2016 at 12:12 pm | Reply
Rickman “got noticed” o/s England because Dangerous Liaisons went to NYC and that was apparently what got him the gig on Die Hard …
Servetus said this on May 7, 2016 at 11:23 pm | Reply
BTW – Serv, thanks for posting the interview 🙂
Mermaid said this on April 28, 2016 at 2:12 pm | Reply
you’re very welcome!
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