~ by Servetus on June 30, 2016.
Posted in Richard Armitage Tags: Brexit, richard armitage
I’m fascinated that the UK has several active political parties that seem to ebb and flow, but don’t completely die. Isn’t there murmur about the Liberal Dems making a comeback as a result of the Labour chaos?
SHeRA said this on June 30, 2016 at 8:59 pm | Reply
One can only hope!
Helen said this on June 30, 2016 at 9:36 pm | Reply
Very different and usually much more flexible than the two party system in the US. Lots of advantages to a multi-party system, but it wouldn’t work well with our Constitution given that you need a majority to elect a President. You’d probably frequently have situations where the Speaker of the House was choosing the President rather than the electorate.
Servetus said this on June 30, 2016 at 9:40 pm | Reply
Oooh no, that wouldn’t be good 😦
SHeRA said this on July 1, 2016 at 1:43 am | Reply
Supposedly that is one of the calculations right now in the GOP. They’ll run a candidate with the goal of splitting the vote and making sure no one gets more than 50% of electoral college, at which point Paul Ryan decides. It’s a huge gamble, but I’ve read articles about it here or there.
Servetus said this on July 1, 2016 at 1:51 am | Reply
Wow…. this year it might be a better gamble than some, considering neither of these candidates are wildly popular.
SHeRA said this on July 1, 2016 at 1:59 am | Reply
I can imagine RA voting for the Liberal Democrats: it’s a smaller party than the Conservatives and Labour but thoughtful people who like its combination of liberalism and social democracy tend to vote for it and some of our greatest PMs, like Gladstone, have emerged from its ranks. It’s also very successful at getting voted onto local councils even when they fail to win seats in Parliament because voters like how hard they work for the people they represent. However, their lack of experience in government in recent years means that voters are concerned that they aren’t up to the dizzy heights of national government.
jaydee09 said this on June 30, 2016 at 10:58 pm | Reply
I wondered that back during the last Parliamentary elections — we talked about it for a while and I think the Brits were of the opinion that the party wasn’t serious enough politically for him to vote for it (iirc).
Historically speaking, though, Gladstone seems to have mostly a formal or notional connection with the Lib Dems (see Dangerfield, The Strange Death of Liberal England). He died in the late nineteeth century and Liberals were done as an influential governing party by WWI.
Servetus said this on July 1, 2016 at 12:46 am | Reply
Oh, and I was going to say — I wonder how much the death of the Lib Dems in the last Parliamentary elections contributed to the situation the UK is in now.
Servetus said this on July 1, 2016 at 12:47 am | Reply
In Denmark, we have some 10-12 active political parties, and I may have forgotten a few. Having so many ‘opportunities’ create some challenges during elections, because differences between some of the parties are really subtle.
A party may be very pro-public sector, but hard-liner regarding the refugee issue, or a party may be very liberal, but actively supporting more government-funding of retired senior citizens. Again other parties are very similar, such as the Conservative Party and the Liberal Party. Their political agendas are similar except for some details, and they are usually in coalition.
I think if I were British, I’d be a Lib-Dem supporter. However, they’ve never really exerted any real influence as far as my memory takes me back. This may influence some to refrain from voting for them.
Mermaid said this on July 1, 2016 at 9:35 am | Reply
Some people think they played a negative role in this whole debacle in terms of coalition calculations. Cameron thinks he needs to defuse his right wing and will have to govern with LibDems in coaltion, origin of referendum plank — he regains the far right but won’t have to keep promise b/c LibDems will prevent him from doing so. Then LibDems crash and burn, Tories govern alone and he has to keep the promise.
But as far as electoral influence? Yeah, hardly the man is still alive who remembers that fateful date and year (paraphrasing Longfellow)
Servetus said this on July 1, 2016 at 3:47 pm | Reply
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