That’s all I have to say. Please duck under cover. Well, not just Armitage fans. All people in Turkey.
~ by Servetus on July 15, 2016.
Posted in Richard Armitage Tags: me, politics
Joanna said this on July 15, 2016 at 10:33 pm | Reply
“and they wanted to join the EU,” Servetus said dryly.
what a huge mess. So many defense arrangements are contingent on the stability of that border. FFS.
Servetus said this on July 15, 2016 at 10:37 pm | Reply
I heard the news on the radio while returning home from the theatre. What on earth is going on this year?
Vanguard said this on July 16, 2016 at 12:41 am | Reply
Hürriyet just said that the coup had been repulsed. (???? — who knows — chaos).
We may be getting to a point where the situation is so apparently unstable that everyone in opposition decides this is the moment.
Servetus said this on July 16, 2016 at 12:42 am | Reply
Glued to the screen here. It seems that no one really knows what is going on.
Guylty said this on July 15, 2016 at 10:49 pm | Reply
I think that’s fair to say. I’m watching the Guardian live updates. As far as I can tell it’s a military faction at the head of the coup and Erdogan still thinks he’s in charge (shrugs).
Servetus said this on July 15, 2016 at 10:52 pm | Reply
Was just watching Tagesschau correspondent in Istanbul who says that the situation is tense and dangerous, possibly for the next few days.
Guylty said this on July 15, 2016 at 10:56 pm | Reply
UK government has told people to stay out of public places and US government has urged those in Turkey to call home so people know they are safe.
Servetus said this on July 15, 2016 at 10:57 pm | Reply
Yes, I heard the same. Read somewhere that the military may be connected to the Gülen faction.
Guylty said this on July 15, 2016 at 10:59 pm | Reply
it’s not something I keep track of but the majority of the military has been more secular than Erdogan’s party has seemed lately. Which doesn’t rule out them having a religious-based faction, of course.
Servetus said this on July 15, 2016 at 11:02 pm | Reply
Sounds only marginally better than Erdogan.
Now hearing reports about loud explosion in Ankara, state broadcaster…
This all sounds very serious!
Guylty said this on July 15, 2016 at 11:03 pm | Reply
Boris Johnson is monitoring the situation, though.
Well, the UK can lean back in relief then…
Guylty said this on July 15, 2016 at 11:04 pm | Reply
I know, right?
This is the man who called Erdogan a “wankerer.”
Servetus said this on July 15, 2016 at 11:08 pm | Reply
Clearly the right man for the position of foreign secretary.
Guylty said this on July 15, 2016 at 11:13 pm | Reply
Luckily someone else is in charge of UK’s NATO participation. Although an expert on wanking might be useful there … [sarcasm]
Servetus said this on July 15, 2016 at 11:14 pm
The decline of occident and orient at the same time.
Now tanks en route to parliament in Ankara. I do think this is serious
Guylty said this on July 15, 2016 at 11:17 pm
yeah, it is, my jokes notwithstanding. Erdogan is on a plane, cut off from all broadcasting, and just facetimed the Turkish people via CNN, and his plane isn’t being allowed to land.
In favor of stability I guess I’m hoping he holds it together, although it’s so hard to say anything positive about him.
Servetus said this on July 15, 2016 at 11:19 pm
I am very much in two minds about him. But as long as we din’t know what and who is exactly behind the military coup, I have no idea what to think. I just hope that there will be no blood and civil war!
Guylty said this on July 15, 2016 at 11:25 pm
I think he’s running scared — he told the people to go out into the streets (who does that?).
I’m just like
(a) migrants / refugees and
(c) Russia lurking
I want that border to hold.
Servetus said this on July 15, 2016 at 11:28 pm
If that border breaks, it could be the start of a much bugger unravelling…
Guylty said this on July 15, 2016 at 11:30 pm
Guessing NATO forces are on high alert, possibly preparing to scramble. What a mess.
Servetus said this on July 15, 2016 at 11:32 pm
What a mess… DECC is being dismantled too, climate change not an issue for the new PM apparently. I shudder to think what tomorrow’s news will bring. But glad to see BJ has it all in hand 🤐 lol
Vanguard said this on July 16, 2016 at 12:45 am | Reply
This situation is scary and could trigger yet other even scarier events. I hope the people in power will keep cool heads and not rush into knee-jerk reactions?
Vanguard said this on July 16, 2016 at 12:49 am | Reply
If this is Gülenists and they are successful, that’s very interesting in terms of the study of comparative revolutions (which often have an initial, moderate phase). Sorry. You can take the girl out of the university but you can’t take the university out of the girl.
Servetus said this on July 15, 2016 at 11:04 pm | Reply
Erdogan says it’s Gülenists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BClen_movement
Servetus said this on July 15, 2016 at 10:59 pm | Reply
It’s not impossible, but Gülen denies it and Erdogan has been known to blame opponents or groups in the population he doesn’t like for things they had nothing to do with.
taurus said this on July 16, 2016 at 8:59 am | Reply
And now he can do whatever he wants with his oponents 😦
Joanna said this on July 16, 2016 at 3:25 pm | Reply
Indeed. Meanwhile Gülen is saying Erdogan staged the whole thing.
Servetus said this on July 17, 2016 at 4:43 am | Reply
Joanna said this on July 17, 2016 at 6:24 pm | Reply
Tanks confirmed opening fire in front of Turkish parliament.
Servetus said this on July 15, 2016 at 11:38 pm | Reply
Just saw a tweet that Erdogan is seeking asylum???
Servetus said this on July 15, 2016 at 11:41 pm | Reply
Financial Times reports Greece closes border with Turkey.
Servetus said this on July 15, 2016 at 11:50 pm | Reply
Vanguard said this on July 16, 2016 at 12:50 am | Reply
My daughter is “sheltering in place” in Ankara now. Airport is closed. She sent a video of lots of jets and helicopters overhead, but her neighborhood is quiet. Her Turkish friends are in favor of the coup, because in their opinion, Erdogan is taking the country in the wrong direction, away from secularism. They look at the coup as a positive development, which will hopefully reaffirm the legacy of Ataturk, who is revered. She is getting her news from the same sources we are, so I have no news to add. Only anecdotal information from her, and her Turkish friends. She has lived in Ankara for two and a half years and has a Turkish boyfriend, so she is a good source for attitudes of urban, secularTurks regarding the current situation. Please send her and her friends some positive energy to get through this difficult time safely. Thanks.
Kathy Jones said this on July 16, 2016 at 12:56 am | Reply
re: Erdogan — there’s nothing to like there, I agree, except that he is technically the democratically elected leader of the country.
re: your daughter — sending positive energy right now.
Servetus said this on July 16, 2016 at 1:01 am | Reply
Thanks, I appreciate it.
Kathy Jones said this on July 16, 2016 at 1:14 am | Reply
I hope she and her friends are and remain safe
Vanguard said this on July 16, 2016 at 1:05 am | Reply
Kathy Jones said this on July 16, 2016 at 1:15 am | Reply
Prayers for your daughter, her friends and you! May all those in Turkey be safe, and may this mess come to an end without brutality or chaos! This is really just ridiculous. Not a day goes by without drama and unrest!
Chazak said this on July 16, 2016 at 3:12 am | Reply
Thank you. She is safe. I cannot watch news until morning. It makes me too nervous. State department advises American citizens to stay indoors, avoid unnecessary travel and monitor news. She receives automated updates, so if advice changes, she will know instantly.
Kathy Jones said this on July 16, 2016 at 5:00 am | Reply
I had bern thinkung of you, Kathy, cos I remembered you visited Turkey just recently. Glad to hwar that your daughter is safe. – Unfortunately the coup was unsuccessful, which will now make Erdogan even stronger than before.
Guylty said this on July 16, 2016 at 10:43 am | Reply
Boris Johnson’s great grandfather was a Turkish politician and journalist murdered in The Turkish War of Independence.
His other ancestry line is Germanic aristocracy.
Caz said this on July 16, 2016 at 11:24 am | Reply
Somehow, this information does not reassure me 😦
Servetus said this on July 17, 2016 at 4:45 am | Reply
Everywhere just seems to be going insane. My heart hurts for everyone. Honestly it takes me back to the old 60’s song..”Eve of Destruction by I believe it was Barry McGuire. one day after another nothing but senseless evil.
Irish Witch said this on July 16, 2016 at 3:38 pm | Reply
Next week: the RNC convention in Cleveland! This is something I’m actually really nervous about.
Servetus said this on July 17, 2016 at 4:46 am | Reply
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