~ by Servetus on October 17, 2016.
Posted in Richard Armitage Tags: Berlin Station, EPIX, marketing, Michelle Forbes, richard armitage
Totally incomprehensible response by Michelle Forbes on wardrobe, which she brought up, turning a question around. At least we didn’t have to hear about her high heels again. Getting very tired of these interviews, but need to watch in case there is one Armitage nugget.
Perry said this on October 17, 2016 at 4:06 pm | Reply
I didn’t understand that either. She would provide so much blog fodder, were one inclined.
re: repetitiveness — yes. This is another thing that I think training as a historian inures one to, at least partially. Most data falls in a particular range; outliers are interesting but have to be evaluated carefully.
Servetus said this on October 17, 2016 at 4:13 pm | Reply
Yes, I found that out especially when I started started studying the Civil War and read thousands of pages on it. The authors come up with the same old quotes from historical figures, even when they also have some info or data one has never read before, a different slant on something. I don’t think there is one book or article on Grant and Lincoln where the writer doesn’t include Lincoln’s comment that if he knew what liquor Grant preferred, he would send it to all his generals ( Grant had a somewhat unfair rep as an alcoholic), and stuff like that. I am completely overloaded on Berlin Station now, such that I can’t even get myself to write anything more about it for the time being and I have kept away from blogger reviews, but read the media ones. Quite a divergence in opinion, especially, but not entirely, from reviewers who were too lazy to even watch the two episodes they were given, and those that reviewed based on four episodes. Also getting tired about hearing how Berlin is a character. In the beginning, it was charming, I loved the opening scenes and the different vibe, very young and edgy, that some of the scenes have – but I’m sort of over it now – just from hearing about it not actually seeing it. It doesn’t help that I recognize nothing. The good news is that people who subscribe to EPIX will undoubtedly watch at least fr their paid for month ( 4 eps), and that should hook them.
Perry said this on October 17, 2016 at 4:53 pm | Reply
It depends a lot on whether you’re reading a work intended for scholars vs one intended for a popular audience, but Civil War is a bit of an exception insofar as it’s a topic that actually has a popular audience (most of the things professional historians work on don’t) and to some extent, the popular audience is evaluating based on whether these familiar chestnuts appear in the work. Reading in that sense makes the novice feel like an expert. (Which doesn’t mean that monograph writers don’t also often mobilize these things, but theyhave a different purpose).
re: “Berlin is a character,” watch out, then. I’m going to write some more about that idea [just delete in advance]. (And cf. Armitage’s statement about N&S that he felt the camera was a character).
Servetus said this on October 17, 2016 at 5:15 pm | Reply
I don’t know about the popular audience theory or where I fit into that. Somewhere in between I guess. At this point, after 20 years, I’d like to learn something new or at least some new point of view – which I often do find. For example, I have seen some old stories cleaned up a bit – from, sayBruce Caton’s book to Shelby Foote’s – same incident, different language to make it PC. As to Berlin as a character – whatever you write has to say something more than the actors have repeatedly said.
Perry said this on October 17, 2016 at 7:17 pm | Reply
My personal position on this is that nothing, nothing is as interesting as the primary sources. I’d much rather read a diary from the Civil War era than a historian describing that diary. FWIW. Or Abraham Lincoln’s letters as opposed to snippets of them. I love reading correspondence.
Servetus said this on October 17, 2016 at 10:02 pm | Reply
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