~ by Servetus on November 10, 2016.
Posted in Richard Armitage Tags: Election Day, politics, Richard Armitage
Was ist “mansplained”?
CraMERRY said this on November 10, 2016 at 4:15 pm | Reply
A man telling you in a friendly, patronizing way how you should feel or what you should think.
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 4:16 pm | Reply
Ich hatte mir schon sowas in der Art gedacht. Bloß meinen beiden Dictionary-Apps war das komplett unbekannt.
Egal. Ich mag mir garnicht vorstellen, wie du dich fühlst.
CraMERRY said this on November 10, 2016 at 4:30 pm | Reply
Mr. Dual Citizen isn’t about to lose his health insurance in February. For instance. Inter alia. He’s not a Muslim or a woman or undocumented. He is the epitome of privilege in this particular context and it gets under my skin when people like him tell me how I should react to something.
Mansplaining: It’s a word that’s only been around maybe the last three or four years.
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 4:34 pm | Reply
ok, I guess he’s not a dual citizen yet, but the point stands.
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 4:35 pm | Reply
Ich weiß, was du meinst. Manchmal ist mitfühlendes Schweigen die bessere Option.
CraMERRY said this on November 10, 2016 at 4:38 pm | Reply
Today, it would have been.
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 4:41 pm | Reply
Ich hoffe, du hast mein Schweigen vernommen 😏
CraMERRY said this on November 10, 2016 at 4:45 pm | Reply
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 4:46 pm | Reply
Ach je… mein Mitgefühl auch von mir…
Bei mir drückt ein Mann auch viele rote Knöpfe, wenn er versucht mir die große, weite Welt zu erklären – oder gar mein emotionales Innenleben 🙂
Andrea said this on November 10, 2016 at 9:35 pm | Reply
seriously. In my experience, men don’t like to have this done to them either.
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 10:31 pm | Reply
Stimmt – Männer wollen auch nicht auf überhebliche Art die Welt erklärt bekommen. Leider muss ich aus Erfahrung sagen, dass es eben gerade diese bei uns “Mädchen” (Sarkasmus aus) anwenden… 😦
Andrea said this on November 11, 2016 at 12:04 am | Reply
I was just thinkig why I feel an itch? It is just that Mr.Hansome Philosopher’s irrytating manner.
Joanna said this on November 10, 2016 at 5:00 pm | Reply
It is, I suppose, another good reminder that I wouldn’t want him as a friend.
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 5:02 pm | Reply
And why it is so immensely important to keep some distance. Emotionally.
CraMERRY said this on November 10, 2016 at 5:16 pm | Reply
fandom hasn’t really been like that for me. In fact, one thing that spoke for it is that it taught me how to feel again. I accept that that also has negative sides.
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 10:30 pm | Reply
Perry said this on November 10, 2016 at 5:21 pm | Reply
I wrote various things that involved an obscenity and then erased them. Trying to stay kind and all of that.
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 5:24 pm | Reply
It would be a distraction to get into it – maybe one I can use now – but I agree. I don’t know if I’m staying kind or just silent. Not in the mood for that particular fight.
Perry said this on November 10, 2016 at 5:32 pm | Reply
I don’t want to deal with the whole “oh, Richard, you’re so smart, oh Richard, you’re so kind, you said just the right thing” ass kissing crowd today either.
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 5:35 pm | Reply
As I replied to him last night, I don’t feel like dancing. Too worried about what will come to pass.
I think he’s just trying to be the eternal optimist, trying to see the good that might come.
LadyGrayse said this on November 10, 2016 at 5:36 pm | Reply
I’m going to say something consciously sexist: the Y chromosome often leads to short attention spans. I know so many men who are the same way: “cheer up, honey!”
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 5:37 pm | Reply
J’ ose être incorrecte, désolée!
Ses discours moralisateurs – sur les bons sentiments,- sur la bonne parole, qui ne blesse personne, avec ses audiobooks sur l’amour pourraient être de bonnes alternatives aux prémédications avec anesthésiques généraux, anxiolytiques, hypnotiques et même aux cocktails administrés aux personnes incurables en fin de vie. Sachant que le budget de la santé doit subir une cure digne d’un régime vegan, nos dirigeants pourraient s’en inspirer.
squirrel.0072 said this on November 10, 2016 at 10:48 pm | Reply
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 10:49 pm | Reply
Well, I don’t think he said the right thing, or anyway, he didn’t say anything that helps me. He as not so sanguine after Brexit.
Perry said this on November 10, 2016 at 5:38 pm | Reply
I know, right? All i can think of is that he has nothing to do with all of the problems that are about to be appear — the decimation of health care for the poor, the reintroduction of blatant, open sexism and discrimination into workplaces, the destruction of the public school system, the violence against minorities. His work isn’t generally dependent on the public weal. And he can fly away from the global warming that we’re about to generate.
So feel free to dance, Mr. Armitage. While the US is burning.
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 5:41 pm | Reply
the other thing that drives me crazy about this kind of thing is his ongoing tendency to quote things as if they are aphorisms. The line he cites in the play is part of Sandra’s justification for why Kenneth should betray his brother.
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 5:46 pm | Reply
He should have just stayed silent. (And yes, the ass kissing on Twitter riles me too. Even if I now sound very unkind.)
Snoopylover said this on November 10, 2016 at 7:36 pm | Reply
I usually don’t say anything about it because (a) I figure everyone knows how I feel and (b) it’s not illegal and there are many ways to be a fan and (c) I’m opposed to policing. But sometimes I think he could say 2 + 2 + 5 and people would say he’s Einstein. And today was one of those days.
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 7:41 pm | Reply
I consider RA to be thoughtful. That’s what attracted me in the first place. At least, when he talks about work.
But “Love wins in the end” was just too much. Really, RA??
Snoopylover said this on November 10, 2016 at 7:49 pm | Reply
It doesn’t even win in the end of the play. Unless you count the fact that Kenneth is coming on to his drunken ex-wife as a win.
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 7:50 pm | Reply
I haven’t read the play so I didn’t know this. Makes the quote even more banal and hackneyed. Le sigh
Snoopylover said this on November 10, 2016 at 8:04 pm | Reply
The quote he cites is something she says to him when she’s trying to convince him to dance with her / kiss her in Act One. I was referring to the end of the play. Sorry for spoiler, though!
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 8:07 pm | Reply
Gosh, don’t worry. I’m one of those weird people who don’t mind spoilers. Thanks for the background info.
Snoopylover said this on November 10, 2016 at 8:20 pm | Reply
Somehow this last line, “Love wins in the end”, reminds me of Gone with the Wind’s “Tomorrow is another day”. I always thought this was a strangely complacent ending after all they’d been through. And we do “Give a d…” contrary to Rhett Butler.
I know how I feel about this, I cannot begin to imagine how you must be feeling. It’s a horrid result. Quoting this last part of the play is downright weird in the given circumstances, because it’s taken out a context in which K tries to “soften up” S (RA’s own words).
Mermaid said this on November 10, 2016 at 8:30 pm | Reply
Oh, so it’s from the first part of the play. Then it makes even less sense.
Mermaid said this on November 10, 2016 at 8:32 pm | Reply
Re ‘Love wins in the end’, ‘Tomorrow is another day’,… Yes, it is, I think, one of those platitudes that are even more annoying, given this election context.
If I were to give him the benefit of the doubt, I’d assume that he felt he needed to make a statement, couldn’t come up with an original idea and then messed it up by taking (again) something he read somewhere out of context to ‘make people feel better’. He is experienced enough to guess that this strategy is likely to backfire though. Then again I’m not sure how much practice he got at drama school and later in his work environment to build solid arguments and/or meaningful statements. At the end of the day, he deals with almost only platitude-like blurbs in his professional life (e.g. Interviews), maybe I expect too much of him here.
Vanguard said this on November 11, 2016 at 1:56 pm | Reply
You may be onto something there. That plus he’s in an extremely touchy-feely environment in which everyone thinks and speaks with their emotions and feelings. It’s all pathos-driven. If one wants rationale, don’t be around actors. Actors are never (or hardly ever) superficial, but I got a certain superficiality out of these tweets, and it wasn’t the time or the place.
Mermaid said this on November 11, 2016 at 8:00 pm | Reply
On top of everything else, based on her election tweets, I find it hard to believe Zoe Kazan was sitting around in the theater laughing today at this situation.
Perry said this on November 11, 2016 at 4:17 am | Reply
I know … she’s definitely a sister heart.
He should be worried, too, though. Trump’s promised to make even legal immigration much harder.
Servetus said this on November 11, 2016 at 4:20 am | Reply
Trump’s immigration policy is not directed at Armitage types – but I could see him obstructing the entry of individuals who he wants revenge against.
Perry said this on November 11, 2016 at 5:16 am | Reply
I dunno. He wants to restrict the H1B. I agree that actors are not likely to be restricted on that basis, but who knows what he will do with green card renewals, etc.?
Servetus said this on November 11, 2016 at 5:19 am | Reply
Maybe Brits will need special recommendation from Farage to get a green card going forward sarcasm off
But May is already trying to establish this ‘special relationship’ once they take back their country…. (Sorry, guess I better step back, this still gets me worked up)
Vanguard said this on November 11, 2016 at 2:00 pm | Reply
Perhaps he wants to distance himself from his earlier tweets, perhaps he fears deportation. LOL
Yve said this on November 10, 2016 at 6:08 pm | Reply
LOL. You’re only really at risk for that now if your skin is brown, though.
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 6:09 pm | Reply
just be careful with sunbathing,Richard.. and all will be well 😉
Joanna said this on November 10, 2016 at 7:30 pm | Reply
LOL, he has to do that anyway to prevent wrinkles 🙂
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 7:30 pm | Reply
Joanna said this on November 10, 2016 at 7:28 pm | Reply
Il craint peut-être une peudo nouvelle chasse aux sorcières, comme celle sous le sénateur Joseph McCarthy, à Hollywood, dans les années 50. Où est le courage?
squirrel.0072 said this on November 10, 2016 at 11:03 pm | Reply
Newt Gingrich said this morning that he wants to revive the House Committee on Unamerican Activities. No joke.
Servetus said this on November 11, 2016 at 8:04 pm | Reply
I had to look up what the HUAC was. Chilling. How much can peaceful protests and the opposition achieve, if anything at all?
Snoopylover said this on November 11, 2016 at 8:16 pm | Reply
It’s one of those “first they came for the socialists” situations. Everyone agrees that (gasp) Muslim infiltrators are bad … but at the end of the chain there’s no one left to protest at all. I don’t know what the solution is, either.
Additional info you may not know if you haven’t been reading this blog long — my home town is the hometown of Joseph McCarthy. This is especially chilling to me — I never thought we would live through an episode like this in my lifetime.
Servetus said this on November 11, 2016 at 8:20 pm | Reply
To give you some idea of what the HUAC was doing, might I suggest you rent the movie “Trumbo”? It’s based on a true story.
LadyGrayse said this on November 11, 2016 at 8:31 pm | Reply
And what about Robert Redford my first crush in:
” The way we were” ****
“The Company You Keep”
” The candidate Mc Kay”
“All the president’s men”
“All Is Lost ” = we will survive I hope
You can compare the Berlin’s roofs in “Berlin Station” and ” Spy Game” too .
squirrel.0072 said this on November 12, 2016 at 12:05 am | Reply
I joked, Nightmares in prospects tonight!!!!
squirrel.0072 said this on November 12, 2016 at 12:11 am | Reply
Shall we all fiddle while Rome burns??
Irish Witch said this on November 10, 2016 at 7:35 pm | Reply
yes, let’s. I’ve got a playlist I compiled recently from a play I attended … we can fiddle along with those jerks to those tunes [sarcasm]
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 7:39 pm | Reply
He wants to reach out and say something positive in this mess, but it’s too trite, too early.
judiang said this on November 10, 2016 at 10:27 pm | Reply
right on both counts. I just found myself thinking that he has no idea why that woman was crying — he doesn’t know the reason, and he’s not a woman. I’m not an essentialist but I think people who don’t have to deal with a particular prejudice have no idea what that might be like.
Servetus said this on November 10, 2016 at 10:29 pm | Reply
I’ve been unable to speak much at home since the election results (and I am Canadian!) and my husband has wisely stayed out of my way and been very, very quiet ever since I told him that my insides feel ripped out and I am simply disgusted with everything right now. It makes me realize why I married him. If he tried to say the bullshit that Armitage wrote there, he knows I would rip his head off.
Babette said this on November 10, 2016 at 11:06 pm | Reply
his head or something else …
Servetus said this on November 11, 2016 at 8:05 pm | Reply
I had a long group chat this morning with four of my closer academic friends, to discuss what action may or may not be appropriate in the next weeks, before Trump is inaugurated, and then once his administration starts putting through its announced program. For better or for worse, a lot of my closer academic friends are German historians and we’re now all pondering the lessons of history — what is the point of entering an active, vocal opposition, and of course the corresponding question of so-called “inner emigration.” A lot of things have appeal right now. I don’t know what I have energy for, but I also don’t know what my conscience can or can’t live with. But one thing none of us is considering is dancing.
Servetus said this on November 11, 2016 at 8:09 pm | Reply
My heart and mind remain with yours!
squirrel.0072 said this on November 12, 2016 at 12:15 am | Reply
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