Richard Armitage tangentially related

The big news is Armitage’s first convention appearance apart from scheduled promo for The Hobbit. I saw this last night and thought, “that must be a hoax,” and so missed the scoop. Read about it by Guylty. However, looks like the best tickets (the ones that let you meet him) are already sold out.

Current projects:

Past projects:

Things Armitage has said:

Collateral attractions:

Things we’ve talked about:

  • Now it’s Viggo Mortensen. Can we just have a consensus that white people don’t ever say that word period? But more than that — really, if the measure of progress against racism is that one no longer utters racial slurs out loud, we haven’t come very far, have we?
  • If you want to see Chris Pine’s penis, here’s a timestamps guide to Netflix. Pine thinks his penis is as good as Michael Fassbender’s.
  • A new lawsuit about anonymous speech.
  • A piece on celebrities and political endorsements. I’m a bit exercised at the moment, because right before the election, Peter Jackson published a long tirade on FB about the Teresa Halbach murder case, telling people in Wisconsin how to vote and why, in which he somehow thought it was cool to intimate that he had no idea how the name of the state’s current Attorney General was spelled. News flash: many, many people in my part of the state have not seen The Making of a Murderer and don’t care to, and most of them think Avery was guilty. Although nonetheless, here’s some idiot claiming it probably helped Schimel’s opponent in the election. There were many great reasons to vote Schimel out of office. Not that Jackson gave a shit about them or finding out about the actual election. (Don’t know why I am surprised; I’ve never admired his politics.) I really wish celebrities would stay out of political discussions that don’t really relate to them. If you don’t like the *law* in Wisconsin (I incidentally agree that the laws dealing with juvenile homicide are insane), move here, commit, and change it.
  • TORN cautions its followers to beware of false casting rumors created by trolls. Interesting just because apparently up to half of the people making racist comments in the Star Wars fandoms were bots / trolls. I hope the Tolkien fans manage to avoid this scourge.

Random:

I also thought I had read something about Audible recommending Armitage’s David Copperfield for listening by dogs, but maybe I dreamt it.

~ by Servetus on November 11, 2018.

65 Responses to “Richard Armitage tangentially related”

  1. Well, I watched the Leland Orser interview, and all I can say is that if Daniel Miller makes it past the first couple of episodes, I’ll be shocked. They mentioned every actor in the show except Richard, and then referred to a “cataclysmic event” that sets up and drives the rest of the season. I have a feeling I’ll not be watching Series 3.

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  2. when i saw the tweet about meeting the Red Dragon, i was intrigued-i figured it much be RA and was a bit surprised when confirmed. Though i was not 100% surprised because it’s an established Con that most of the main actors from Hannibal have appeared at. We kinda know that he tends to shy on the side of reservation over this kinda thing, so no wonder it got to RDC5 before he agreed to appear! (though scheduling is probably some of the reason)
    I wont be going, even though it would be easy,whilst i enjoyed Hannibal and his portrayal of Dolerhyde- cons really aren’t my bag and i would feel pretty uncomfortable in that situation. I’m sure it’ll be amazing for those that do go though especially the gold tickets holders!

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    • Yeah Rachel I’m across the pond so I’m even further away and the golden tickets are sold out now🙇‍♀️🙄

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      • apparently gold tickets sell out within a few days of the previous con, which i think is cool because they’re going to devoted Hannibal fans. Now if it was to meet Anthony Hopkins!… (it’s the only autograph i own! lol)

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        • So you’re not curious for even a sneaky peek at Richard then? Doesn’t the other ticket get you an autograph or selfie w him just not the
          Q and A also you get the evening party right?
          There’s your chance w eye contact w his baby
          blues!! 😘

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          • oh i’ll admit there’s a part of me that would like to go, but without going into too much psychoanalysis- i’m also a bit reserved about this stuff generally. When i lived in London, there was nothing more exciting that seeing an actor or musician i liked walking down the street but i never would ever try and approach them-far too self conscious and far too aware of their privacy. The only person i ever approached was at a ball when the actor Robert Powell was there and i very excitedly told him how much i loved his career-bless him i think he was very bemused that a 20 something was going gaga over him (he was in his 60s)-i did get a photo on my old crappy Nokia!
            I’m not sure where i’m going really, just that i think it’s preferable to me to keep him at a distance! lol

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            • Rachel I’m the exact way except w Robert Duvall who my old boss knew but no pics or
              autograph was taken much to the chagrin of my dad! Although I admit I would love to experience a SD as long as I had buddies to hold me up when Richard came thru the receiving line💗💗💗😍😍👏

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          • I’m going to reply again. A really big reason I don’t want to go see him? I’ll either fall deeper or the spell will be broken and I don’t want either option to happen!

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        • yeah, I agree. That also might make it easier for him than the whole scene with people are specifically his own fans.

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  3. Hoax is an excellent word to describe
    it why Richard why???

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  4. Hi Servetus, thanks for the articles. It wasn’t a dream about the new dog audience, unless it was one huge collective one. Here’s the link, I’m not sure whether Richard should be flattered or not :
    https://vetpracticemag.com.au/listen-up-audiobooks-for-dogs/

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  5. I couldn’t quite believe the con news at first, thought it must be a hoax! Didn’t he say he disliked that sort of event some years ago? And why now, I thought Hannibal was over and Dolarhyde dead? Have I missed something?🤔 Anyway, not my kind of thing at all. I remember standing in the queue at the Old Vic during the Crucible run, feeling awkward and out of place. I ended up with my back to the wall, totally bemused and wishing myself miles away! I was totally embarassed and have never been to the stage door again. I also felt sorry for him, too, he looked exhausted and like he was miles away in his mind that night.

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    • yeah — it’s totally out of character. He was invited publicly so many times to events that looked like fun, including all the German Hobbitcons. Particularly in 2013 when he did nothing professionally and there was a ton of enthusiasm, he seemed to express his position by staying away. He was asked directly (in 2015 or 2016, I believe) about whether he’d be interested in coming to a con and he said he’d explored everything there was to do about Thorin in the films and he wasn’t interested in cons. According to people in the know, even when there were cons in cities he’s been resident in, he stayed away not only from the con, but also from socializing with his former colleagues. And when Hannibal was over, he said he was relieved to stop playing that character. He’s always left the impression that there’s nothing he’d rather avoid; I vaguely remember a statement of his about the awkwardness / pricing model, but I can’t find it again at the moment. What I’m wondering is if there isn’t some politicking going on here — right now he wants to do sci-fi (stated explicitly) and seems to be open to horror (implicitly) and feels he needs more exposure? Or maybe he just needs the money.

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      • do you think some of it is that he’s relaxed his stance on cons? he’s said before about being an observer and i think, having seen so many high calibre actors doing this sort of thing that he’s realised that it’s ok to do cons now?

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        • I really don’t know what’s in his mind. I would say his general MO has suggested that he doesn’t enjoy this kind of fan encounter much, if at all. Given his apparent personality features (consistently stating that if he had a superpower it would be invisibility) I doubt that has changed. So I don’t see him doing this casually, in a “what the heck” mode, at all. I’m guessing there is a specific reason.

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      • Politicking on behalf of Fuller? As a favor to Fuller maybe? With so many audio books this year cranked out money must be ok
        He’s frugal right apart from The sunglasses fetish? I don’t get why after Hannibal has been off for 3 plus years and of all things he would agree to appear or headline this particular con? I think it’s bizarre and sad to be perfectly honest.

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        • I doubt the payment for the audiobooks even cover the carrying costs on his NYC place, if he still has it, although maybe it’s sublet right now. Although audiobooks are gaining in popularity their sales are nothing like those of a normal bestseller. I’m guessing his residuals / royalties from earlier work keep him somewhat afloat, though. Or maybe he’s trying to put together money to finance Bridge Cleary.

          I suspect there might be something about the Fuller connection, though, although Fuller’s last few years have been so erratic. I think he’s signed onto and left three series now. You’d have to be afraid if you got involved in something he was doing that he’d leave you high and dry.

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          • people do change though, i think it’s quite noticeable in interviews how much more relaxed he has become over the years and maybe he’s taking the lead from other well known actors who quite happily do cons and realises it’s not a bad thing? because i don’t think it is at all problematic

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            • Sure, people change (although IMO not as much as self-help experts think they do / can). We don’t know all the factors that played into his previous decisions, nor do we know everything that might be at work now. (It’s also not unusual for people’s behavior to change in the wake of the death of a parent; I’ve observed and experienced that myself — although I don’t know that that would be at work here.) “Taking the cue from other well known actors” would also be a huge change, though, as he’s never seemed very much influenced by what others do, including in situations where it would have been lucrative (i.e., Hobbit-related cons when there were a lot of them and they were well attended). This is why I tend to think that there’s a reason apart from his personal desire to do so, but certainly that’s not the only possibility.

              re: problematic — no, it’s not problematic, if what you mean by that is “illegal or immoral,” or if it’s what he really wants to do. (I assume he is not being coerced or blackmailed to appear, and I don’t think overcoming reluctance to do something against one’s previous inclination constitutes a problem, either). It will make a particular group of fans ecstatic. It will create hope in the fans who’ve been begging him for years to do something like this that he might do it again.

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              • re problematic-it just feels like there’s an undercurrent of concern over this and i don’t see why it would be a concern. I think the attitude towards cons from an actors point of view has changed the past 5-10 years. They used to be viewed as somewhere only washed up actors attended, whereas now with social media-they’re quite normal and gives actors quite a bit of kudos. I guess i’m basing my assumptions on his ability to change on my own-i used to be very very reserved and non commital and unsociable but last 10 years i’ve gained in confidence and do things i never would have done previously. Also he has previously described himself as a watcher and i think some his confidence in interviews has come from interactions with fellow actors and seeing how they react. But that’s just my opinion 🙂

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                • hope that’s not coming across as aggressive btw!

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                  • Rachel no not to me anyway and I got upset with the breaking news on Friday b/c I thought is this all you have now? Is this plus the Audio and the podcast which I wish that story would have turned into a screen play for him but it was as a new admirer to put in mildly of his his talent is enormous and he should be in so many things and he’s doing a con about a show which died 3.5 years ago. I still think you
                    should go even out of curiosity to see how he
                    looks in real lif
                    e😘

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                    • i guess i do understand where you’re coming from, but i’m sure there is stuff that he’s looking at or auditioning for that we don’t know-he’s such a fabulous actor that he will always have a career. And no, i’m not going to RDC5! lol! (i probably would just wibble anyway)

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                    • Rachel by the way cross referencing here but Ink opens on Broadway in April so I’m gonna
                      try go sounds really interesting so I’m thank you for spilling your “buddy” 😘👏👏👏

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                • I think there are two reasons for the concern, neither of which has to do with the status of cons as a measure of a career.

                  One is that scene from the trajectory of his career, this is really unusual behavior for him — to the extent that multiple long time fans didn’t believe the initial reports (this reflects what we’ve been discussing). My own life experience from teaching is that people change incrementally and slowly — this, in comparison, is sort of like a bomb dropping, although of course the change could be happening behind the scenes. His profile has been pretty consistent. He’s often dodged public appearance opportunities and later offered reasons / excuses that may or may not have stood in for what seems like a more general mood. He wishes he could be invisible, he doesn’t like crowds, many people who have observed him at the Hobbit premieres have tended to say more often that he seemed distant, uncomfortable, and unhappy than that he was enjoying himself. He clearly feels a tremendous pressure to be polite and friendly, but he doesn’t seem to have the relationship with the crowd that many of the Hobbit actors have/had, nor does he seem to seek it out. It will be interesting to see what people say about this appearance — I’ve tended to think that the public appearances where his behavior has been friendly and attentive (Newcastle, the UATS premiere in 2015, Pinter/Proust, the Crucible stage door) have both been smaller and allowed for lengthier individual conversations, and been conditioned by his feelings of gratitude. To me, that explains a lot about The Crucible, Pinter/Proust, and Newcastle in particular.

                  The second is that the fandom started out as (and to some extent is still heavily influenced by) a group of people who saw N&S as the sort of lowest / beginning point of artistry for him. To some extent this was influenced by his own statements at the time — that he wanted to do Stoppard, Shakespeare, small experimental venues, etc. Fans thought (based on their desire and his statements) that his career was supposed to go in the direction of artsy / prestige projects. it never really went that way, probably for many reasons, not least his own expressed lack of desire to put in a lot of time in any one genre. The Hobbit raised his general profile but there’s been no huge wide distribution project since then (Hannibal is incredibly popular in a very small niche of the media world), and his biggest successes have been in genre material, which is where his career seems to be going now: Hannibal, Wolverine, Castlevania. Appearing in that kind of material requires promotional work of a particular kind: not just interviews and red carpet appearances, but cons. The fans are supposed to feel like they’re part of the whole thing in a way that they’re not for more artistically pitched projects, and the artists involved are supposed to seem more accessible. It seems possible to me that he’s realized that this is the future of his career and so he’s going to have to appear at cons periodically. But the more of those projects he does, the less appeal he has to a certain kind of fan who’s been watching his career for a long time. So some of the concern has to do with the fandom’s dawning recognition that he seems to be becoming a genre actor. IMO it doesn’t help that there’s something potentially truly objectionable about many of the genre projects he’s been involved in recently — the violence / gore, the treatment of women. I feel a lot of fatigue on those points myself. So if he’s indeed going to try to fit that profile — of which going to a con is a symptom rather than a cause, admittedly — it makes me a good chunk less enthused.

                  Of course, maybe he’s just been dying to do this all along — or he woke up one morning last month and said, I feel completely differently about it now! I just doubt it, based on previous evidence. I assume if he’s doing it, it’s because he has some good reason(s). I just wouldn’t assume that it’s out of huge desire to do the activity itself, because that would seem odd.

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                  • i see your points and obviously you’ve followed his career for a long period now. I think the problem with acting is that it’s not a simple trajectory as many professions are. He’s not had big roles per se-but he’s been in some big films like Oceans 8 and Alice and obviously 3 seasons of Berlin Station. He might not be doing all the things he previously said he wanted but he does appear to be doing things he likes. Also regarding the topics of films, from my point of view which i mentioned in a previous thread-i don’t see the stuff he’s done as particularly gorey or exploitative-it’s not like he’s done The Human Centipede! (and sadly, horror is a very popular genre at present) And yes, i LOVE LOVE LOVE costume drama and would adore to see him doing something like that or on the stage-hopefully there’s stuff happening behind the scenes that we don’t know about 🙂

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                    • well, I guess we’ll have to disagree on gore and violence. We probably have different contexts. I did some (obvs non-representative) polling here when it was running: 25% of respondents weren’t watching Hannibal and had no plans to (in a fandom where people used to spend a lot of energy running down the most obscure project he’d been in). The whole thing was a huge turnoff for many of us, including his statements about how he was going to educate our tastes (paraphrasing). And the Wolverine podcast is a pretty clear, and IMO a repellent, example of fridging. The older I get, the less interested I am in projects by male writers that make women the frivolous or casual victims of violence, apparently for the benefit of teenage boys who don’t care or even find it cool. That these stories appeal to, or are at least not objectionable to, some fans does not change the fact that they don’t appeal to or are objectionable to others. That there are projects that are worse that these don’t make these projects okay. I wouldn’t watch those projects either; I object to them, too. The difference is that now my crush is in them, and so I have to make decisions about how far I’m willing to go. If it starts to be a situation where all his projects are like that — whether or not it’s good for his career — that has an impact on me as a fan. Fans vote with our gut reactions and our feet.

                      I think that (a) how a career works out and (b) how fans feel about how a career works out are two different questions. His career is what it is — that’s really up to him, and he’s the only one with all the information on it, but I suspect Ocean’s 8 and Alice were both happy accidents (we have his own statement about Ocean’s 8 as evidence). I assume he does what he likes within the realm of his possibilities, as he has said this repeatedly, that he never picks a project for the money. However, I can speak to fan behavior and attitudes: it’s been a consistent pattern (I observed it the first time with Strike Back, but I’ve heard things about the reaction to Robin Hood) that he loses a segment of fans with each genre project, because fans lose patience. (In fact, I think the first statement I read about SB from a fan was “it’s awfully violent,” coming from one of the biggest UK BNFs at the time, AnnetteG, who had done a tremendous amount of fan labor and had built the definitive fan website at the time — and three years later, she was gone).

                      And that is our privilege — really the only privilege capitalism gives us with regard to all this is not to buy things we don’t enjoy. So if people are concerned, it only makes sense to me that if someone that they invested a lot of time and emotional energy in is changing his behavior or his focus, that they would evaluate the situation and respond accordingly. There’s no obligation in fandom to love an actor forever, just as there’s no obligation on the part of an actor to continue to pursue certain kinds of work because he thinks his fans would prefer it. We’re both independent parties in this transaction. To some extent, fans saying “well, maybe he’s doing it for the money” might be an attempt to excuse him for doing a project we find objectionable.

                      I hope he does some different projects, and soon, and I hope that all of my fan friends are still around when he does them so we can talk about it (and I hope I’m still blogging — this has been a rough six months). But in reality: the vast majority of all of the friends I made as an Armitage fan are no longer active or intense fans. People move on.

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          • When I learned about this Con appearance I felt sad, as I have been feeling sad about all the audio work and the empty filming or theater schedule ( that we know). Just sad. Maybe he’s doing it as a favor to Fuller who may offer work later – though as you noted, Fuller has been unreliable in following through with his projects of late. FYI, I looked up a few articles on how much narrators usually get paid – and though it varies and there are some SAG AFTRA issues, it seems safe to say that it could be as little as $ 2,000, maybe more for something long like David Copperfield, maybe more for him if he has a multi-book contract or because he is a known name, but sometimes there are royalties. Still, all in all, it’s a pittance in my view. I’m where I was when I started my blog – I just don’t understand why an actor of his proven talent, and someone who appears so easy to work with, isn’t getting the opportunities he deserves.

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            • I had a conversation with an audiobook author a few years ago (2014?) and he said that although numbers of sales are not typically shared publicly, 10,000 copies / downloads is a massive bestseller. So $2,000 doesn’t seem off as a calculation.

              speaking for myself — it’s very hard for me to sort out my reactions to anything at the moment, between dad, the political situation, and my own life I am constantly tired and impatient — but I just feel quite tired. It’s been a long time since I’ve heard a project announcement that really enthused me, and longer for an acting project. I’m mildly looking forward to Berlin Station 3 (while steeling myself to have no expectations) just because I’ll actually get to see him again. And after that?

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            • Yep I felt sad not like it’s beneath him to do the con, but sad like is this it esp after discussion about other projects that bloggers and commenters read and think oh Richard would be great in that. BS3 is really depressing to me b/c that’s where I’m emotionally tied to him and its only a few episodes of him ..whereas for a lot of bloggers and commenters its NS or SB or Spooks or RH. I don’t get what’s going on. Surely he knows a lot of people in Britain or NYC or even LA that can connect him with projects. How did The Lodge come about?

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              • There’s no information that I know of about The Lodge – maybe just the usual way – either a casting director reached out or his agent reached out. It sounds like a small role, since he drops his kids off and the rest proceeds without him as far as we know. Same way we didn’t know how most of his roles came about. In some cases, fans suspected he was brought to the director’s attention through some connection. Despite the announcement that Hugh Dancy will attend, I do think this is a come down, maybe done as a favor. I don’t see how this helps his career in any way unless there’s something promised by Fuller who has no new project announced. The idea that he might sell his autographs or time for a photo is repugnant to me – in fact – I don’t think that will be the case.

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                • FYI, the @StarFury Twitter feed gives some indication of the nature and budget for this event. Their Twitter rep seems a bit unprofessional to me. Good news for some is that they have increased the size of the Red Dragon venue. Also they indicate that pay their guests and put them up in style.

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                • Perry you think it’s just Q and A w him ? I mean that show is over 3 years old now and if he’s going to do panel discussion and show up for the evening party or whatever party is listed in the ticket info what could he gain from doing this? I get people have said maybe he is happy to meet w fans Hannibal and NS, Spooks but if there is no opportunity for pics and autograph sessions then what good will come of this?!
                  I thought The Lodge he’s in most of the movie as the fiancé w the kids but he just drops them
                  off?

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                  • I don’t know much about Cons in general nor this one specifically – though it seems a little different from what I’m used to reading about, especially after looking at the Twitter feed and the FB page. It seems like the rep is the only person running their various Cons. As to The Lodge, a father drives his two sons and his fiance , their soon to be stepmother, to The Lodge in a remote area, so they can bond. And he leaves.

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  6. I guess he’s well off enough to be doing just audiobooks for a while, maybe that’s to do with the loss of his mum and spending more time with his family right now. That being said, I have no idea how much money is involved for the actors in these events, so no idea if that’s the reason. I would find that hard to believe, though, so may be there is another season of Hannibal in the making? Still can’t imagine what they’d do with a dead Dolarhyde, though…

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  7. I will only keep tonight the article on “Armitage’s chemistry with Martin Freeman”. Because I like very much the image of “Radagast the Brown”. So that I would like to use it to identify myself in the square

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  8. Maybe you already know, but “Chris Pine’s penis” sounds redundant in french, “pine” being slang for guess what 😂 is twelve

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