Are you watching Bandersnatch? #richardarmitage

Richard Armitage cited it as one of his favorite television shows. There’s a new standalone film in the series called Bandersnatch. And my RSS feed is blowing up with news about it! It has a new feature, which is that [beware spoilers in both these links] the viewer can make decisions for the main character, leading to different possible endings to the story.

I did get Netflix to watch Castlevania 2, but I haven’t had the time and patience yet to do so. I wanted to try Black MIrror but I haven’t done that either.

So:

1. Are you watching Black Mirror?

2. Have you watched Bandersnatch? If so, what did you think?

3. What do you think might appeal to Richard Armitage about it?

~ by Servetus on December 29, 2018.

47 Responses to “Are you watching Bandersnatch? #richardarmitage”

  1. Eldest is a big fan of Black Mirror- she reports that she “hasn’t done it (Bandersnatch) yet because I’m too scared.”

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  2. I’ve watched a couple of episodes. My best descriptor is that it is “unsettling”

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  3. Charlie Brooker is a brilliant writer but i’ve avoided Black Mirror completely since it first started as it’s far too dark and dystopian for my liking. My anxiety issues are fairly well controlled at the moment but i now the themes in this series are more than likely to stick in my head and upset me

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  4. I have a feeling it’s a bit too unsettling for my taste…

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  5. I tried watching Bandersnatch and found it kind of boring. What I don’t like about it is how they offer choice to you but it’s not really choice. It is only made to look like you are choosing the path for the main character to take. When in truth if you don’t choose the path that neflix wants you to really take it will go back and try again until you choose the correct path for the story to progress. Yes, I only watched about twenty minutes of it before I tired of it. I thought going into this that I would be able to choose the path that the character takes and those choices would determine the out come of the story. Just like a choose your own adventure book. Then I could back again and rewatch it choosing different choices to have a different outcome. Kind of how it works in Mass Effect 2. The choices you make through out the game determine the final outcome of the suicide mission at the end of the game. Who lives and who will die. Maybe I was expecting too much from netflix. lol If I feel like it I may go back and try watching it again. Perhaps if I watch some of the black mirror series I would see this Bandersnatch thing differently.

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    • Interesting — I’m guessing you watch a lot of stuff roughly like this?

      (as a kid I thought the Choose your own adventure books were a bit disappointing, too.)

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  6. Never heard of it before, but because of this post I just watched the trailer and now I definitely want to watch it – but I don’t have time to watch anything at the moment.  As for what might appeal to RA about it: Based on what he said in the podcast/ interview by “followingfilms” about immediately creating the scene (or whole worlds) in your head whenever reading or imagining something and having vivid dreams/ sometimes having lucid dreams and all of that I think it all revolves around the question(s) of: Is what we perceive real? And is it real because it is for a fact real or do we make it real by way of our perception. As memory is not objective – can we also change the present by imagining it in a certain way? And is all this “normal” or should we be worried by it? – oh wait…that’s what appeals to me about it 😉 so…did I interpret the things he said in the above mentioned interview just in that way, because of my view of the world? 😉 …Die Katze beißt sich in den Schwanz…

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  7. Black Mirror has dark and twisty storytelling and gives actors some great material. I love it in small doses as I feel morose after watching it. Have not watched Bandersnatch yet as I am binging Lucifer.

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  8. Servetus, vous pouvez supprimer mes propos de ce blog, je comprendrais.

    Attention Warning I am not a good, kind fan here. Do not read those naughty thoughts of mine, if you are still happy with RA’s career or words choices.

    (((Si vous avez eu l’impression d’être manipulée en analysant les propos de Richard Armitage dans son message de fin d’année et ses messages politiques effacés, je dirais que j’adhère à cette notion. Il manipule ses fans, comme fait le chat dans le jeu du chat et de la souris. Cette sensation ne m’est pas apparue récemment, mais depuis déjà pas mal de temps.
    En plus, j’ajouterais que ses choix cinématographiques (comme spectateur ou comme acteur) concourent à confirmer cette notion de manipulation. Il l’avait avoué en parlant de rééduquer le goût de ses fans avec son rôle dans “Hannibal”. Selon moi il s’est lancé dans une véritable entreprise de sabotage psychologique, délibéré de son fanclub des premiers jours. Ses choix montrent un changement de cap délibéré depuis plusieurs années et qui me semble s’accentuer. Jusqu’où tiendra la fidélité des fans de première heure? Je me pose la question. Les wellwishers changent de profil. Si je reste c’est pour les fans)))

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    • Je ne pense pas qu’il subit un manque de proposition cinématographique à 100%, mais s’il y a de l’ostracisme de la part des producteurs, il en est en partie responsable également.

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    • Squirrel-it’s a perfectly valid opinion and you’re not a bad fan as we’re adults and actually allowed to have opinions (though i know some fans believe you’re only ever allowed to say nice things-bleurgh) I don’t think he’s particularly manipulative or malicious- i feel he just does whatever the hell he wants -he’s always said he suits dark pieces. He obviously desperately wants to be taken seriously-which i believe he is- but i also think he feels the romantic leads detracts from that-which is a shame because i think the 2 can co-exist side by side. I feel his greatest roles (and the parts he’ll be most satisfied with) will happen in his future when he’s still handsome but not the romantic lead. I guess it’s a double edged sword-being so attractive gets him parts and a dedicated following (though us well wishers do not like him purely because of his looks) but for someone so desperate for approval from peers and his deep down desire to play worthy roles-it also works against that. His mind is suited to that of a character actor but his body ends up providing him a slightly different career! But i imagine that’s also why he’s going down the producer route because then he can pick and choose projects he wants-which hopefully won’t be too dark but should be interesting

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      • I have the vague memory that on his Australia trip he said he wasn’t that interested in rom-coms because it wasn’t a genre that he enjoyed as a viewer, but I could be mixing it up. I agree he wants to be taken seriously (I also think there was an interview where he said what he wanted most was respect, or something like that).

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        • Les comédies romantiques mièvres ne sont pas les films dont je raffole le plus, surtout en fin d’année. La semaine dernière je suis allée voir “The Happy Prince” en VO sur grand écran. Cette année ma révélation cinématographique fut le film: ” The three billboards outside Ebbing”, un film dénonçant la violence mais sans excès de violence sur l’écran.

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          • The odds that he could be cast in a film like either of those, at least at present, is really low. Everett needed years to put “The Happy Prince” together and “Ebbing” is a true prestige project. Not that I wouldn’t love to see him in that sort of thing, but his career is not there.

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      • J’espère que vous avez raison.
        Mais pour l’instant, j’ai dans l’esprit son projet sur Bridget Cleary. Même s’il en fait un plaidoyer contre les à priori et les jugements globaux, dégradants, stigmatisants certaines communautés, il n’en reste que le fait divers reste horrible.
        Le film sera distribué dans les circuits d’art et d’essai, classé au mieux de biopic, de drame historique, de dénonciation des dérives religieuses paÏennes, de critique sociale et politique (de la société de cette époque), des travers de l’information, voire au pire de film d’horreur.
        Entre l’idée de dénonciation et l’idée d’apologie des excès de la société (avec la violence, les discriminations, les manipulations, …) la barrière est ténue. Je pense que l’apologie souvent prime sur la dénonciation, dans l’esprit du spectateur lambda.
        En tout cas, si tel est son combat, le chemin qu’il a choisi, n’est pas le plus facile. Je parlerais de croisade du prêcheur Armitage.

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        • do you think he’ll definitely go with Bridget Cleary?

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          • Je l’ai toujours pensé et je le pense toujours. Il possède les droits cinématographiques sur cette oeuvre. Comme l’était “My Zoe” pour Julie Delpy, ce pourrait-être un projet muri, qu’il porte dans sa tête depuis longtemps. Mais il peut y avoir d’autres projets inconnus pour moi.

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    • I think this is really a comment on what I said on SueBC’s blog, no? Which was really about the specific situation. But in general, I’d say: all communication is on some level manipulative. But some manipulation we like. I’m always saying I miss Peter Jackson. Not because I think I’d like the man (and I despise his politics), but because his marketing works so well. Yeah, when I watched the advance publicity for the Hobbit, I knew it was addicting / manipulating me, but it did it really well, I got something back, and in the end I wanted what was happening me enough not to resent it. This particular time I resented it. As to whether Armitage is alienating fans on purpose, that i doubt.

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      • Yes , you are true, it’s a comment on what you said on SueBC’s blog, but also on what was written about is recent sentences, in different blogs.
        Manipulation car souvent, il ne parle aux fans de manière sympathique, que lorsqu’il a quelque chose à promouvoir ou à vendre. Le reste du temps il ne communique que par des selfies truqués, des prêches ou des messages supprimés dès qu’ils sont envoyés. Les fans subissent des douches chaudes puis glaciales et inversement.

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      • Si ce n’est pas ce que je pensais, c’est peut-être une entreprise de déstabilisation psychologique des fans, volontaire de sa part.

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  9. I had never heard of Black Mirror but spent a tortuous hour watching Bandersnatch. It was repetitive and boring as hell, imo. True, the choices were not really choices, and if you made the “wrong” choice, it would repeat the scenes all over again until you made the “right” choice. I didn’t stick around to the end, so I don’t know if it becomes scary rather than irritating. Maybe it redeems itself with brilliant writing at the end. It did throw in some humor that made me laugh,but watching it required more patience than I had.

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    • that’s irritating in the same way the “choose your own adventure” books used to be. You always end up in the same place.

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  10. Happy New Year, Servetus! I love Black Mirror, but it’s too unsettling to watch more than one episode at a time. Bandersnatch was interesting, but I quickly got irritated that it had the viewer self-correct any decisions to the exact string of predetermined decisions.

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  11. I have watched all the previous Black Mirror episodes. The last series was yucky enough I questioned if I would watch more but this Bandersnatch has me curious….

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    • I thought today about cancelling my Netflix — I haven’t even looked at it once since resubscribing — but I am damn ell going to watch some of it! So do you have an episode that you think is particularly worthwhile?

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      • Season 3 episode 1, Nosedive, was particularly a favorite. It’s stars Bryce Dallas Howard and it really sticks in my memory. I enjoyed all of season three, actually seasons 1 through 3. Another favorite is the first episode in Season 2 called Be Right Back.

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  12. The Hubs wants to watch Bandersnatch. I haven’t had time yet. We watched all of Black Mirrors as fast as we could and really enjoyed them. They are dark, haunting, disturbing, well written/acted and thought provoking; we spend lots of time discussing episodes.

    One of the topics we’ve gone back to is the, what makes us human? And who or which of us gets to decide what those parameters are? Not that I’m a sci-fi reader or fan. It started with Ghost in the Shell comic/anime and continued with one of the last Black Mirror episodes. It a pretty depressingly dark episode, but is something that could be a real possibility in the not to distant future. Hence the continued discussion.

    Another series that provoked same human/memories/soul debate was Altered Carbon. So, if violence, male nudity, (Joel Kinnaman and James Purefoy in particular) don’t bother you, this series was well worth the time. At first I was all, “Honey, you know I prefer you treat Sci-fi like porn and watch it when I’m not around.” He convinced me to give the first episode a try. The action, murder mystery plot were immediately engaging, but it was Edgar Allen Poe that hooked me.

    I do keep thinking about it when these stories come up; what makes us human, what defines a soul, a life? I’m not seriously asking. Just something to think about once in a while. 😀

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    • I think the whole question of what makes us human is really important at the moment due to all the automation going on. Do you have an episode you’d recommend?

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      • Which episode of Black Mirror to try? . . . I’ve been giving this more thought because my initial response was going to be what turned out to be the last episode of of the last season. Then reading the synopsis again on Netflix, I realized why it was so poignant; it reflected back on previous episodes. So no, not that one. Each episode is different while a complete story, they are, I think, trying to convey a bigger picture of our society. I could be wrong, but if you decide to watch more than one, I’ll be interested to learn your conclusions.

        Okay, so after looking at the too short Netflix synopsis I found this on Wiki today: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Black_Mirror_episodes

        This lists each episode with a little more but not spoiler synopsis.

        Think maybe Season 2 Episode 1 might be a less traumatic one to try. They all have some deeply traumatic, yet deeply thought provoking element to every episode. So after reading the synopsis you can try different ones to see what you think you might find least off putting?

        We are all different, with different life experiences and will process what our life experiences have been with what we find acceptable. Therefore, after reading how some people won’t watch (or read) violent entertainment. I am reluctant to presume what will be less/more acceptable? I’m not wording this right. I’m fairly thick skinned and very callous where violence is concerned. What I find acceptable is pretty extreme in comparison to those that find even Castlevania too violent; I find it light fun, fluffy action/adventure and superficial in the horror department. That is not to disparage anyone else’s view. My reading experience is different than the vast majority that like the show or more importantly, (because that is where the money is coming from) those that play that game. Which I never have. I think we all know why I wanted to see it.

        Maybe the wiki page can provide a little insight to what they are getting into before they jump into the series. I didn’t know about it when I was watching it, but I wouldn’t have bothered, just watched it.
        😀 -mimi

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    • Have you seen Ex Machina yet? It evolves around some of these questions too and I found it hauntingly thoughtprovoking – and it’s beautifully filmed!

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      • Hi Anja, No, I have not seen Ex Machina, I saw a preview and knew it had nothing to do with a comic series by the same title, (not that ex machina is a unique to the film or comic title) and didn’t want to make time for it. Maybe I’ll check it out. At the moment, we’ve made a date to try and watch Berlin Station on Sunday nights, but that has fallen flat this last month. So if there is not a new episode this next Sunday night, I could suggest Ex Machina. 😀

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    • Ahhhhhh, naked Joel Kinneman…cough. I mean, Altered Carbon, I devoured it!

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  13. I haven’t seen all of Black Mirror but it’s a brilliant TV Show. I thought Bandersnatch was fantastic but the choose your own adventure gimmick really drew me in. I hope you enjoy it if you decide to give it a go!

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