Here we go again

ICYMI

~ by Servetus on March 25, 2021.

32 Responses to “Here we go again”

  1. So little patience — apart from whether I agree with the sentiment behind this tweet or not (I don’t; or rather, as usual I think it’s naive and too emotional in orientation) — dude, if you want to make a political statement, don’t remove it immediately afterwards.

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  2. he should follow his own advice with those first two words, and then stop there.

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    • The thing is that he also tweeted about Gilbert’s video and the amount of science that’s gone into creating these vaccines (spoiler: this specific vaccine is new but the idea behind it is not — otherwise they could never have developed and tested it so quickly). All kinds of research go into vaccines: private, public, public / private partnerships. Someone’s gotta pay for that research. So yay if AZ is providing its vaccine for free, that doesn’t mean it had no cost or no one is paying for it. So, dude, if you have an opinion about that it’s fine, just don’t pretend like you don’t after you have admitted that you did.

      Apparently there were focus groups this week that revealed that the thing most likely to convince vaccine-hesitant people to get vaccinated is what their doctor thinks — much more so than politicians or other prominent figures endorsing it. This is as it should be.

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      • I feel like he goes off half cocked sometimes, tweeting by pure emotion. if he would just wait a bit, think through what he wants to say and make sure it’s something he is able to stand by with conviction, he could be taken more seriously; he’s like the boy who cried wolf with the tweet deleting.

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        • The thing is that I totally get not wanting to discuss political opinions with total strangers. I don’t, either. So I only post about things I am prepared to discuss and opinions I am prepared to defend. It’s really hard to believe that after 5.5 years on Twitter, he doesn’t get this already.

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        • “if AZ is providing its vaccine for free, that doesn’t mean it had no cost or no one is paying for it.”
          “to convince vaccine-hesitant people to get vaccinated is what their doctor thinks ”
          I DO AGREE 200%

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      • Apparently, according to the journalist named Marcus Dupont-Besnard on11 mars 2021, price per dose could be:
        AZ 3 euros
        Pfizer 15 euros
        Moderna 20 euros

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  3. Thanks. I think he made a fair comment and shudda had the strength of his convictions to leave it up and not delete it? 🥺

    But understand that he’s wary of controversy – his T’s, his option what to do with them? ❤️

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    • Did anyone say it wasn’t his choice?

      This is not a page where we slavishly say “oh, Richard, everything you do is good.”

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  4. 🙂 Price fine… but DISTRIBUTION PROBLEM here.
    There is a problem with the deliveries of AstraZeneca vaccines in the EU: “the delays in delivery are” totally unacceptable “said French government spokesman Gabriel Attal”. I note only one or two bottles per week for doctors or pharmacists shots.
    For weeks, the European Commission has been trying to see more clearly the total number of vaccines produced by AstraZeneca and their distribution among its various customers, in particular the United Kingdom. United, much better supplied than the EU. So controls demanded by Brussels have partly lifted the veil on the stocks in Europe of the British-Swedish laboratory. The Italian daily “La Stampa” revealed that health authorities discovered that AstraZeneca had a stock of 29 million doses of its Covid-19 vaccine at the Catalent Inc. plant in Anagni near Rome Italy. (Daiano Cristini / Sintesi / SIPA) .
    While a large number of the promised Pfizer vials left for GB

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    • The 27 meeting by videoconference at the top of the European Union are now addressing this concern. US President Joe Biden is invited to attend. I hope good news for the third world and the under-endowed countries.

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      • I hope. I don’t know why anyone should be stockpiling at this point.

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        • Difficult to understand for sure. I am waiting for daily news to give us valid explanations soon.
          It’s hard to daily wait for a vaccine while the English variant causes a third growing wave. Some are asking the military for help so that hospitals do not choose, between human who deserve artificial respiration, because of lack of space.

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    • I have a very low-level information basis on the merits of the various choices, so I can’t comment on how much preferences for a particular product could be driving these shortages, but it has seemed to me from the beginning like the leftover Brexit anger may be playing a role in this. Poor communication and a British company that doesn’t want to play ball. To be honest, I didn’t realize until like two days ago that AZ was even being used in the US (I thought it had yet to be approved), but then I read that there are tens of millions of doses stockpiled here. If we can’t use them, seems like it should be our obligation to move them to those who can / will. (For comparison, Mexico seems to be using a lot of Chinese vaccines.)

      I don’t think that there should be a huge profit on this (and I don’t think the amount we were billed for is out of scale), but I know they’ve been working on mRNA vaccines for a decade, and that to do this kind of research, researchers in the US anyway get grants that have particular conditions, and also apply for patents — and that universities often fund future research from past successes on patents (e.g., warfarin — the patent on that funded big chunks of the University of Wisconsin for years.). So if you’re just going to hand it to people you can’t just break into a lab and throw the doses out on the street. There’s a legal basis for this stuff that doesn’t relate as simply to profit motive as Armitage’s tweet suggested.

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      • “Merits of the various choices” that’s the problem.
        Since the last decision of the European authorities on the risk of thrombocytopenia and bleeding disorders, AZ is actualy for those over 55 years old. AZ would offer good protection but less against the South American variant (but few tests there).
        My last news discoveries about the subject: “New clinical trial in the USA (32,449 participants), results communicated on March 22, 2021: efficacy of 76% against symptomatic forms (85% in people aged 65 and over) and 100% against severe forms and hospitalization; good tolerance. Effectiveness in the field against hospitalization with a single dose: 94% in Scotland in the elderly (81% after 80 years) and 80% in England”.
        AZ came out of English public research. It is normal that they derive notoriety and use for British subjects. But …

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        • it sounds like that Italian stockpile was actually destined for Belgium?

          The problem isn’t per se the problem with distributing vaccines, it’s that the UK still somehow thinks it isn’t part of Europe.

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          • Would they forget that the virus knows no borders and that the variant, which currently rages in EU, comes from England?

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            • I don’t know what’s going on inside AZ distribution so I really can’t say what their considerations are, but I agree that the idea that borders are meaningful in terms of distributing vaccines is a silly one.

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          • Our president apologized for not spending more money on the purchase of vaccines. Grande première!!!
            On the other hand, France distributes lot of money partially helping offset the losses of companies and their employees.

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            • Do you feel like French politicians are actively making things worse, though? (That’s how I felt about the GOP)

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              • Being a provincial basic health care professional means my thoughts are conditionned by my numerous years of daily experience on the field.
                The absurdity and slowness of decisions taken at the top of the French administration pyramid levels exasperate. In time of such crisis, health should take precedence. Professionals need to be trusted, local officials too. People of goodwill are intelligent and foil their tactics to divide us to rule; or worse to create a diversion, in the face of their shortcomings, failures..
                The fear of previous mistakes, future lawsuits, a popular uprising and moreover abuses of power or political ambitions, leave me speechless. (e.g. this afternoon, a young health executive wanted to exclude me from professional vaccination rights. Fortunately, I had the right arguments skills. My colleague and husband have been waited an extra half hour.)
                I pay tribute to policemen, nurses, doctors (retired or not) who generously with kindness are sacrificing their free time to vaccinate.

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                • We’ve had similar issues here (pharmacists, veterinarians not allowed to give vaccinations without extra training, but second year nursing students who are uncertified given scholarships if they help out vaccinating.

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                  • Sorry, explanation.
                    Here, doctors, nurses, pharmacists, veterinarians, dentists, midwife… are allowed to give vaccinations. But not enough vaccines are spraid.
                    This callow youth, new graduate Health executive “Manager” didn’t think I was old enough, sick enough or obese enough to get a vaccine. (Me too revolution in my mind) He ignored the fact that this week health professionals are more widely eligible.

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  5. I spoke too soon.

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  6. He won’t ever learn, will he!?! rollingmyeyes

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