52 Responses to “There’s an (incompetent) coup attempt going on in the US”
Those who incited this, including, especially, Trump, have to be held accountable somehow. What remedies and penalties are available, I don’t know, but there has to be something. We worried about violence, but I never thought they would successfully storm the Capitol, and some asshole would be sitting in Nancy Pelosi’s chair with his feet on her desk.
I don’t know how the Capitol Police aren’t in collusion here. If these rioters had been African American they would have been swept from the plaza the second they arrived. The police’s apparent decision not to do that points the finger right straight at them, too.
I agree. It may be just the fact of the overwhelming numbers.Some were taking selfies with the “demonstrators,” ( to easily identify them later? Not sure. Maybe the cops were scared because they were out numbered. There clearly was not, and still is not, a sufficient law enforcement presence. Even now, there doesn’t seem to be arrests happening.
I was just looking at CNN — they are reporting that the mob outnumbers the law enforcement. I mean — this is now two hours later. They can’t get mobilized in two hours?
‘Where are the police/?’ was exactly my thought. This is America, If the rioters had been African Americans there would have been immediately the National Guard, tanks, helicopters, Exocet missiles … The incitement must have been well-planned.
NBC News just called the second Georgia Senate race for Ossoff, incidentally. I’m lecturing on the nature of reality at the moment. A philosopher would probably say this is some kind of insane reaction to reality.
in the “Allegory of the Cave,” the people in the cave kill the philosopher. That may be what we’re seeing right now — a flatout refusal to deal with reality.
Although I’ve lived in Paris over 50 years I’m still a concerned American and can’t believe what I’m seeing on CNN +NBC+BBC— just overwhelmingly heart broken & disgusted. And 13 more days to go. Never thought I’d live to see domestic terrorists Storm the Capital. Just shameful. Thank god Georgia went BLUE!!!
This seems to have woken a few people up — Rand Paul just said he would not vote against certifying state electoral votes, for insistence — but it may not be the right people.
This is utterly shocking. I am sure the entire attack has been carefully planned. The longer I watch the more I feel they wanted those powerful and symbolic images (“We are more powerful than the senate“). There must have been a lot of help and support from inside the capitol. I have just seen a video clip of a policeman allowing one of the terrorists to take a selfie with him… To me this is a strong and direct threat to the black community amongst others.
And if the WH leadership apart fom the president had any conscience at all, they would now invoke the 25th Amendment and get rid of Trump before he can self-pardon himself for all the charges he is like to incur for his behavior today.
I just saw a report somewhere that there’s evidence that this was all planned. Would be interesting to know if the WH was involved in the planning phase.
There was an intriguing tweet by Ivanka Trump this afternoon where she called the rioters “patriots,” which she then deleted. I bet they all know something.
Unbelievable scenes. And we thought 2020 was shit… I hardly dare go to bed now, for fear what is happening overnight. If I believed, I’d be praying for America now.
I suspect it won’t happen, b/c there would never be enough support for it in the House of Representatives (they would need 290 votes, and we saw last night that the House GOP just won’t vote against party, no matter how important the issue).
I don’t know what to wish for just b/c really, the entire Cabinet should resign. But if they did that, there’d be two weeks of severe international vulnerability for the US and I don’t want that, either.
Looks like you are right. Even with Pelosi calling for the amendment or an impeachment, nothing is happening. I don’t know what is more dangerous – allowing Trump to stay (and in reach of an arsenal of weapons that could destroy the whole world), or ousting him now and risk violent uprising. It is clear, however, that the responsibility lies with the enablers of Trump. Rats!
I’m starting to think more violence is inevitable. At least the social media companies seem to have woken up now (when it’s too late), but I fear the elected representatives never will.
Disbelief. I mean the US is supposed to defend democracy. How could this happen unless this attempt coup d’etat is supported by someone high up. So, yeah, WTF!
He’s a stupid narcissistic idiot — but it was amazing to me last night how cynical the GOP congressmen were. All they see is opportunity for themselves.
I’m horrified. And I can’t believe that more wasn’t done to keep them out of the Capitol (and to get them out again). Like many people say, imagine this had been POC. If I was religious I would pray for nor more violence and a safe transition now. But to have this guy in the White House for two more weeks is really scary. I hope they do something.
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Those who incited this, including, especially, Trump, have to be held accountable somehow. What remedies and penalties are available, I don’t know, but there has to be something. We worried about violence, but I never thought they would successfully storm the Capitol, and some asshole would be sitting in Nancy Pelosi’s chair with his feet on her desk.
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I don’t know how the Capitol Police aren’t in collusion here. If these rioters had been African American they would have been swept from the plaza the second they arrived. The police’s apparent decision not to do that points the finger right straight at them, too.
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I agree. It may be just the fact of the overwhelming numbers.Some were taking selfies with the “demonstrators,” ( to easily identify them later? Not sure. Maybe the cops were scared because they were out numbered. There clearly was not, and still is not, a sufficient law enforcement presence. Even now, there doesn’t seem to be arrests happening.
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I was just looking at CNN — they are reporting that the mob outnumbers the law enforcement. I mean — this is now two hours later. They can’t get mobilized in two hours?
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‘Where are the police/?’ was exactly my thought. This is America, If the rioters had been African Americans there would have been immediately the National Guard, tanks, helicopters, Exocet missiles … The incitement must have been well-planned.
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a lot of people are now hypothesizing about collusion.
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I can’t believe what I’m seeing…
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NBC News just called the second Georgia Senate race for Ossoff, incidentally. I’m lecturing on the nature of reality at the moment. A philosopher would probably say this is some kind of insane reaction to reality.
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Ah, that is good about Ossoff!
Nature of reality… very apt when looking at the US right now where there are very clearly different realities at play.
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in the “Allegory of the Cave,” the people in the cave kill the philosopher. That may be what we’re seeing right now — a flatout refusal to deal with reality.
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I had to look that up. Not really familiar with Plato’s actual works but boy, that man knew what he was talking about.
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and four centuries BC. I always tell my students the ancient Greeks thought almost every thought that anyone had in the West until 1700 or so.
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Although I’ve lived in Paris over 50 years I’m still a concerned American and can’t believe what I’m seeing on CNN +NBC+BBC— just overwhelmingly heart broken & disgusted. And 13 more days to go. Never thought I’d live to see domestic terrorists Storm the Capital. Just shameful. Thank god Georgia went BLUE!!!
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This seems to have woken a few people up — Rand Paul just said he would not vote against certifying state electoral votes, for insistence — but it may not be the right people.
It’s chilling.
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This is utterly shocking. I am sure the entire attack has been carefully planned. The longer I watch the more I feel they wanted those powerful and symbolic images (“We are more powerful than the senate“). There must have been a lot of help and support from inside the capitol. I have just seen a video clip of a policeman allowing one of the terrorists to take a selfie with him… To me this is a strong and direct threat to the black community amongst others.
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And if the WH leadership apart fom the president had any conscience at all, they would now invoke the 25th Amendment and get rid of Trump before he can self-pardon himself for all the charges he is like to incur for his behavior today.
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Have you seen Trumps message? It’s ridiculous!
I am speechless….
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Yeah. “We love you. You’re very special.”
ON WHAT PLANET??!??
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This is all so sad and mind-boggling and annoying and frustrating.
We only can hope it won’t be more horrible over the next two weeks I guess sigh
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At least he’s been cut off from his social media, at least temporarily.
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Wtf… 😳🙄🤬
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my sentiments exactly.
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Ditto!
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Speechless.
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When my social media feeds started exploding like made, I was so stunned I had to reread a lot of it three times before I got what was going on.
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Holy crap. That is all I can say. We are looking at it from up here with our mouths open.
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Keep those border controls tought, so you don’t catch this particular stupid disease.
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We already have it and trying to contain it.
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I just read that a source close to the WH said the WH is in contact with the “protestors,” who plan to stay in the senate chamber all night. WTF!
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if that’s not sedition …
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I just saw a report somewhere that there’s evidence that this was all planned. Would be interesting to know if the WH was involved in the planning phase.
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I am sure it is
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There was an intriguing tweet by Ivanka Trump this afternoon where she called the rioters “patriots,” which she then deleted. I bet they all know something.
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And these people believe really to be patriots. They are only manipulated
Imo She is a dangerous girl because she is much cleverer as her father
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Yeah. She’s torched every other career option she has so I assume she will run for office at the next opportunity she has. Total snake.
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I can’t believe it. What a dismantlement of democratic values.
And still two weeks?
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don’t say it too loudly; he still has time to start a war with Iran.
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OMG! I w’ont sleep tonight.
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they’ve been saber rattling since Christmas and the Nimitz sailed back to the Persian Gulf day before yesterday. So.
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Unbelievable scenes. And we thought 2020 was shit… I hardly dare go to bed now, for fear what is happening overnight. If I believed, I’d be praying for America now.
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Historians talk about the “long nineteenth century” lasting from 1789 to 1914. This is long 2020, let’s hope it ends in two weeks.
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Or before that, re 25th amendment per your comment below!
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I suspect it won’t happen, b/c there would never be enough support for it in the House of Representatives (they would need 290 votes, and we saw last night that the House GOP just won’t vote against party, no matter how important the issue).
I don’t know what to wish for just b/c really, the entire Cabinet should resign. But if they did that, there’d be two weeks of severe international vulnerability for the US and I don’t want that, either.
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Looks like you are right. Even with Pelosi calling for the amendment or an impeachment, nothing is happening. I don’t know what is more dangerous – allowing Trump to stay (and in reach of an arsenal of weapons that could destroy the whole world), or ousting him now and risk violent uprising. It is clear, however, that the responsibility lies with the enablers of Trump. Rats!
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I’m starting to think more violence is inevitable. At least the social media companies seem to have woken up now (when it’s too late), but I fear the elected representatives never will.
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Speculation in my FB feed that the 25th Amendment has been invoked. I wonder if it’s not wishful thinking.
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Disbelief. I mean the US is supposed to defend democracy. How could this happen unless this attempt coup d’etat is supported by someone high up. So, yeah, WTF!
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He’s a stupid narcissistic idiot — but it was amazing to me last night how cynical the GOP congressmen were. All they see is opportunity for themselves.
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I’m horrified. And I can’t believe that more wasn’t done to keep them out of the Capitol (and to get them out again). Like many people say, imagine this had been POC. If I was religious I would pray for nor more violence and a safe transition now. But to have this guy in the White House for two more weeks is really scary. I hope they do something.
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Maybe they will lock him in the Lincoln Bedroom.
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Good idea 😉
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